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integrated intelligence system (iis? :)

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Martin Hartl
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#1 - 2016-11-12 10:05:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Martin Hartl
hey,

i would love to see such a system within the client software.

what should it be?
I want to klick on a character, corporation, alliance or citadel and add some customized data into a field there.
don't tell me you can do a note on a character already now....

what is the difference to current available notes?
first: notes can only be added to a character.. not the oter ones
2nd: only you can see this note

i think about a system where you can make the info available to choosen characters, corps and alliances.

you klick on a corp, add some info like: this corp has done this and that
then you choose your alliance to be able to see this info and choose your alliance boss and your corp to be able to edit it.

so next time you see a guy in local and check his corp you see the info.

the uber thing would be if you could define "hitwords" within the note text or have a full text search available within this iss module so you can search for "nasty bastard" and you find all alliances/corps/dudes where you have added these 2 words in the intel text.

maybe ccp has some time for playing around with it now that the ingame fitting tool is ready Blink

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Martin
Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#2 - 2016-11-12 11:02:23 UTC
interesting martin ;)

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Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#3 - 2016-11-12 11:28:35 UTC
What's the advantage of this over using contact labels and corporation contacts?
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#4 - 2016-11-12 11:56:54 UTC
You seem to be asking for a custom version of https://evewho.com/

The fact that it exists indicates that a 3rd party tool that provides what you want can be built, but I don't think CCP should tie up their development resources doing it. Nullsec coalitions already have intel systems that provide the information they want and it isn't particularly useful for the average player. I think it's sufficient they have given us the tools to build it ourselves if we want to.
Martin Hartl
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#5 - 2016-11-12 12:22:51 UTC
Violet Hurst wrote:
What's the advantage of this over using contact labels and corporation contacts?


all info in 1 place, not in 10 different windows and honestly... the current note in the contact labels sucks
Martin Hartl
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#6 - 2016-11-12 12:26:40 UTC
Do Little wrote:
You seem to be asking for a custom version of https://evewho.com/

The fact that it exists indicates that a 3rd party tool that provides what you want can be built, but I don't think CCP should tie up their development resources doing it. Nullsec coalitions already have intel systems that provide the information they want and it isn't particularly useful for the average player. I think it's sufficient they have given us the tools to build it ourselves if we want to.


you are right, but small corps for excample just don't have access to such tools... evewho.com is good, but i think it would be more awesome if you klick on a char ingame and see the info.. not to have to open a browser, surf to the related site, write the corp/char name into it, choose from a few possible results and then see some info... not only info you added and that may not even related to you in any way.
Martin Hartl
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#7 - 2016-11-12 12:33:21 UTC
about ccp resources: it's not our decissions or planing anyways, so no need to discuss if they have the manpower to do it.

why they should implement it? Intelligence is a central part of the game and pretty vital for many corps/alliances and individuals to do whatever they do in the game. So why not have an ingame tool for that?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2016-11-12 14:29:00 UTC
Martin Hartl wrote:
...Intelligence is a central part of the ....


...paranoia that made EVE so bad in the last decade.


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Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#9 - 2016-11-12 15:22:28 UTC
Sorry for stressing this point further, but from your reply I don't think we are talking about the same thing here.
To me it sounds like you are talking about the "notes" tab in the character info window and not the labels within people and places -> contacts.
I mean to me the labels are exactly what you described as "hitwords".
Make a label called "nasty bastard", assign it to all contacts you wish to and whenever a red (assuming you'd give a nasty bastard negative standings) enters local open the nasty bastards list and check if he's in there. And if you have too many people tagged as nasty bastards just type the first three letters of his name into the filter and hit enter. Or do just the latter but on your full contact list to immediately see all labels assigned to the dude under his name.

For corporate contacts I can do just the same thing, since I'm the CEO. Granted, labels don't get carried over.

Standings for very quick info, labels for more info and the notes tab if you want to write a novel about someone. That's three levels of granularity to define what a character means to you and two for corps and alliances. I'd say the existing system already provides a good basis, so I'd prefer it being improved to ditching the whole thing in favor of yet another new system.




Btw, if by "note in the contact label" you meant the little free text field under the standings selection when adding a contact: That's not for personal notes but for the message you send to them when adding them. Also I personally would abbreviate Integrated Intelligence System with IIS, not ISS. :P
Martin Hartl
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#10 - 2016-11-12 18:45:06 UTC
Sorry, i don't think that the current standings/notes system is what i'm looking for, a centralised ingame intelligence gathering tool would be much more adequate