Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please respond to what I actually said. Stay on topic kitten. Or you know, keep making things up as you are proven wrong.

CCP said cloaks are viable to be safe in game, and no one cloaked has ever harmed anyone. You, as a non PvP-er living in null want cloaks nerfed. It follows that you, as that non-PvPer want to reduce the perceived threat that cloaks bring. It then follows that you are so risk averse that you're afraid to undock when you don't have 100% certainty that you're safe.

This is your problem, not the games.

Because they are in the middle of a blue doughnut, with superblop backup and do ratting at an industrial scale (10s of thousands of npc kills/hr). Get your goonlore right.

Yah, too bad the funding for roams like that is gone now that CCP took the lottery isk. You did know that, right?

You know perfectly well I am not advocating a huge nerf to afk cloaky camping. The 5 hour timer simply tempers it slightly to allow for individual and very small gang stuff in off peak times to become viable (this is pretty important for alphas in null sec too. They need to be able to undock in their crap ships if we want the rejuvinating effect CCP is hoping for).

Which in turn gives more ships in space. Which makes small gang roams more viable.

Not everything has to be on an epic scale all the time.

Edit
CCP will be changing afk cloaky camping. One way or another. And changes mechanics fundamentally all the time. I would really have run with my suggestion if I were you. Its a small thing that might belay more intrusive changes.

nul-sec activity is divided between peak and off-peak times.

Peak times are used for epic pvp
Off-peak times are used by individual players or very small groups to generate income to fund epic pvp.

The relationship between the two is the main reason I only want a afk cloaky camping tempered somewhat. It should remain a tool in the sov war kit that can harrass pvp revenue generation, but with some minimum level of effort at somewhat higher levels than today.

That was the reason for why any afk cloaky camping.

This is the reason for why less of it:

It kills content.

Try not to hurt yourself thinking up those summaries of yours.

Nothing in space save afk cloaky camping is 100% risk free.

Nothing is safer than remaining docked up.

I want to see more ships getting killed. For that to happen, they must undock.

Afk cloaky camping contributes to less ships undocking and getting killed. The practice makes null-sec safer.


There is absolutely no way you are going to be able to understand this. In fact, don't even try.

Thank you! I was afraid you might hurt yourself trying.

What? Go on fleets? And leave this fun discussion behind?

I think not.

We get what your idea is and what you say it will lead to and we disagree with them both. You can do whatever mental gymnastics you want to do to believe in your own idea and to back it up for the rest of us, but that doesn't mean that we will think it's the right way.

Those of us that have been flying around looking for fights a bit more often have a different view of the issue. We think that the ratters currently have too little risk and too much reward. We see this AFK-cloaking issue as being a symptom of too much safety for too long and wish to change that.

Personally, I think that your idea would only increase the safety and lead to less fights. Cloaks are fine and do not need another nerf. CCP pre-nerfed the ships that can use it anyway.

BTW: If you know a player is AFK, then you know you can do whatever you want since, they aren't at their keyboard to actually respond. It's quite difficult to gather intel or do a hotdrop if you aren't even at your computer...

Yes, all opinions are not equal, but I think again that this is where we disagree on whose idea is good and whose isn't.

Yes it's a cloaking neft, at least for my use.

No, it is not required.

Because there are better ways to increase content than to nerf the one thing that works against the 100% accurate intel from local.

what else could you do?

stop posting and try to shoot people.

Because content.

Yes, you will laugh and laugh and laugh. As long as you keep trolling like this. At least be subtle enough to hide what you're really doing here....

Because content (apparently that is the thing to say, because content)

Last I checked, increasing safety is less HTFU, not more.

"Last I checked..."
Anything that increases undock frequencies makes null-sec less safe.

Nothing is as safe as being docked save afk cloaky camping.

Anyone who thinks docked ships in afk cloaky camped systems is good needs to HTFU.

"Does anyone..."

The thread has a cyclic pattern.