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What's with this validate your email garbage? What if its closed?

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Routine Deviation
Fire Over Light
Astral Alliance
#21 - 2016-11-11 07:33:47 UTC
CowQueen MMXII wrote:
Yesterday, I changed the email address of one of my accounts from a none verified address (I don't have any access to anymore) to my regular email address and verified it without any problems.


That was yesterday. GM response said the login alteration has caused unforeseen issues with email in this scenario.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-11-11 09:01:27 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
I already verified it ages ago, why do it second time? Seems like vasted time for me. Also I dont see any option there to verify it again. How do you reverify what is already verified? Ugh
For clarification, i want to use current email.

You don't have to verify again. And that you have to file a support ticket when you don't have access to the old address any more is logical or otherwise a hacker can easily hijack your account because he can change the email.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2016-11-11 11:25:31 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
13kr1d1 wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
I see they still let you post.....they are sniffing out accounts THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED. Is that hard?


No, I don't need my account updated thank you. If it becomes impossible to play without verifying, then that's what'll happen. Lost income.



Because they verify your account through your email, in case someone hacks into it and changes the password, it gives you an email letting you know. A lot of services on the internet do this. Either it's worth maintaining an email, or it isn't.

... and then this 'someone' hacks your email....

3FA soon? Cool

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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#24 - 2016-11-11 11:56:09 UTC
13kr1d1 wrote:

I don't update anything, because I like anonymity and freedom.


Roll ...
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#25 - 2016-11-11 12:20:09 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
I already verified it ages ago, why do it second time? Seems like vasted time for me. Also I dont see any option there to verify it again. How do you reverify what is already verified? Ugh
For clarification, i want to use current email.


If it's already verified, then you need to do nothing.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#26 - 2016-11-11 12:31:23 UTC
13kr1d1 wrote:
PopeUrban wrote:
"I no longer use an email address but can not be bothered to update my primary contact address" is not a valid consumer complaint.

It's just being lazy.

Take five seconds and update your information like you would for any other internet thing you use.


I don't update anything, because I like anonymity and freedom.


then i wouldnt expect you to be salty if you get hacked and ccp dont help because you like freedom so much

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#27 - 2016-11-11 12:32:19 UTC
bear in mind, if you don't have access to the email, you won't be able to log in, when it sends the email to that address, with a token you'll need to hand over. (unless you're using all up 2FA. which you should be)

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Beast of Revelations
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2016-11-11 12:33:08 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
The inconvenient part is, you need to have access to your old email address to be able to change the email address associated with your account.

I have just had to submit support tickets over the matter, having found no alternative.


This. I have an old email with my account I cannot access. And now I cannot change the email address associated with my account.

I guess I'll need to submit a ticket too.
Mama Carebear
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-11-11 12:47:10 UTC
PopeUrban wrote:
"I no longer use an email address but can not be bothered to update my primary contact address" is not a valid consumer complaint.

It's just being lazy.

Take five seconds and update your information like you would for any other internet thing you use.

You can't change email without access to the old one!

You have to try with a ticket, or lose the account.

CCP had an idea, didn't think the whole way throught as always
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#30 - 2016-11-11 13:24:06 UTC
What about those who dont even know you have to verify it now and they are unsubscribed, and what will be if they would want to log in after the date is over?

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Memphis Baas
#31 - 2016-11-11 13:44:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Answers to some of the questions above:

1. You have to verify it again because CCP have flagged all the emails to be re-verified. It's a pain in the butt, complain your annoyance to them, burn Jita, whatever.

2. Verifying the email is very easy: log into Account Management with your id and password and go into Account Details. You'll see your name, email, etc. By the email you'll see "! This email needs to be verified. Click here to verify this email." Click there. This works for active accounts, trial accounts, old accounts, everything.

3. People who no longer have access to their emails or have trouble with the process have already been advised, twice, by ISD reps to open support tickets. Let CCP worry about "too many support tickets" and "not being able to handle them", it's not your job to worry. They're providing a service, you pay a subscription fee for this service, you're entitled to have access to speedy tech support.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#32 - 2016-11-11 14:36:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
13kr1d1 wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
I see they still let you post.....they are sniffing out accounts THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED. Is that hard?


No, I don't need my account updated thank you. If it becomes impossible to play without verifying, then that's what'll happen. Lost income.

And the new update to the eve launcher broke it, and now it crashes every time I open it. They really don't want people to play EO..


Change your e-mail entry on the account, silly. I lost access to a student account many moons ago. I just changed the e-mail to my new one.

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Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2016-11-11 15:24:52 UTC
13kr1d1 wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
I see they still let you post.....they are sniffing out accounts THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED. Is that hard?


No, I don't need my account updated thank you. If it becomes impossible to play without verifying, then that's what'll happen. Lost income.

And the new update to the eve launcher broke it, and now it crashes every time I open it. They really don't want people to play EO..


Lost income, from some idiot who can't play with a valid email address.

You're not income, you're a liability.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#34 - 2016-11-11 15:39:52 UTC
I have now searched the text for reveryfying and in the account info and actually they are only writing about that every pilot has to have veryfied email, nothing else. And I dont have any link to veryfy it, so I presume I dont have to do anything.

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Memphis Baas
#35 - 2016-11-11 15:44:22 UTC
Yes, if you're all set, the only thing you'll see in Account Management is a small green button by your email address.
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2016-11-11 16:15:16 UTC
Aatch Bland wrote:
You have to validate your email address because of Alpha clones. To prevent abuse of Alpha clones they will be preventing you from logging in with another account while logged into an Alpha. They are likely using email addresses to help with that.

While creating a new email address isn't hard, verifying email addresses at least prevents low-effort attempts at Alpha abuse.



That's incorrect. Create a new free account right now and try to log in with that account while logged into a payed account. You can't do it because it detects the already running paid account and prevents it.

Therefore they do not need your email info to do it.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2016-11-11 16:16:40 UTC
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:


Lost income, from some idiot who can't play with a valid email address.

You're not income, you're a liability.

Never start your own business, man! Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2016-11-11 16:20:19 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote:


Lost income, from some idiot who can't play with a valid email address.

You're not income, you're a liability.

Never start your own business, man! Lol


He's trying to pull the "and you can't come!" tactic.

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Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#39 - 2016-11-11 19:05:44 UTC
So, what overrides what?

I fly approx 200,000 miles a year for work.

I login from my cell phone (one att, one verizon, plus vodaphone when in europe) I login from free wifi in airports, various airport clubs, hotels, airlines etc

So, every time I change IP, I have to re verify 43 ******* accounts, are you insane?

I have 2FA on my main accounts, but not on all of them

Will having the launcher with the blue tacks ticked keep me from having to do it, or will I have to sit there and re verify every account, every time I change IP?

What about every time the ******* launcher loses my accounts? (when I lose signal for whatever reason and the red boxes appear in the launcher, it erases everything)

Sometimes, I don't have decent internet, just getting email is a chore

Somehow this plan is looking worse and worse the more i think about it, even if I agree with the premise of the plan.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#40 - 2016-11-11 20:37:22 UTC
Kenneth Feld wrote:
So, what overrides what?

I fly approx 200,000 miles a year for work.

I login from my cell phone (one att, one verizon, plus vodaphone when in europe) I login from free wifi in airports, various airport clubs, hotels, airlines etc

So, every time I change IP, I have to re verify 43 ******* accounts, are you insane?

I have 2FA on my main accounts, but not on all of them

Will having the launcher with the blue tacks ticked keep me from having to do it, or will I have to sit there and re verify every account, every time I change IP?

What about every time the ******* launcher loses my accounts? (when I lose signal for whatever reason and the red boxes appear in the launcher, it erases everything)

Sometimes, I don't have decent internet, just getting email is a chore

Somehow this plan is looking worse and worse the more i think about it, even if I agree with the premise of the plan.


Maybe this is CCP's solution to people who take multi boxing too far beyond reason.

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