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Long-term incursion griefing proposal (that's right, i made another incursion thread)

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#1 - 2012-01-18 19:31:55 UTC
Anyone who participates in, endorses, or enjoys ruining highsec incursions, and anyone who just wants to help sow a little chaos, this is for you.

It's time we engage in long-term manipulation of the incursion community. To that end, I have an assignment for anyone who has an incursion alt (I'm not here to judge, we all gotta make isk somehow): put them in a player corp and keep that corp under a wardec. Tell your fleetmates it's because of a dec shield, to raise the price of wardecs against your corp. All the cool kids are doing it these days.

It will be hard to get fleets at first, as you'll be rejected as the logis get warnings of you being at war. But the more often this is seen, the more it will be accepted. The key here is to NOT RUIN THIS. You get in the fleet, you run the incursion sites as normal, you get paid. We want it to become normal to accept at-war fleetmates. We want "dec shield" to become something all incursioners expect to see in fleet chat. This will probably take months of effort to achieve and depends on a lot of people cooperating and not messing it up, but if we do pull it off the rewards will be epic.

Where am I going with this? If you can't guess, I'm not going to tell you.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Requiescat
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-18 19:37:52 UTC
probably will never work the way you want it to :/

incursion runners may not be smart but they are paranoid

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-01-18 19:40:32 UTC
Requiescat wrote:
probably will never work the way you want it to :/

incursion runners may not be smart but they are paranoid


Like easily startled wallpaper P

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Izzy Alistair
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-18 20:01:11 UTC
They'll change the mechanics or something before you get to put the next stage of your plan into action...it's a good idea, but would have been better if you had started this back when Incursion came out
Requiescat
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-18 20:06:35 UTC
Izzy Alistair wrote:
They'll change the mechanics or something before you get to put the next stage of your plan into action...it's a good idea, but would have been better if you had started this back when Incursion came out


there were all kinds of ridiculous shenanigans when incursions first came out, going to a live event and looting everyone's wrecks until someone aggressed you and then having neutral rr there while you brawl them down was my personal favorite

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#6 - 2012-01-19 06:08:17 UTC
Izzy Alistair wrote:
They'll change the mechanics or something before you get to put the next stage of your plan into action...it's a good idea, but would have been better if you had started this back when Incursion came out

If they fix dec shields, we will have accomplished something good. If they don't and this works, we will have accomplished something hilarious.

It's win/win.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-01 13:46:35 UTC
Your Idea:
Make war-decs normal for incursion runners.
Incursion runners get complacent and a couple die.

here is the part that you missed out

As soon as a couple die, all trust in this disappears again, fast.
You're left with several months of planning for some hi-sec kills on people who have far too much money to care.

you also seem to have missed that a lot of incursion alts are in noob-corps, or large alliances, good luck with the genious plan though.

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StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#8 - 2012-02-01 14:21:12 UTC
The lot of you chaps are wasting valuable time.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#9 - 2012-02-01 14:31:25 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
Mr Bigwinky wrote:
As soon as a couple die, all trust in this disappears again, fast.

You're not seeing the big picture here. I have other goals than just shooting a couple of incursioners. I can do that now.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mods Muvila
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-02 07:41:25 UTC
There's only one thing you call someone who takes enough time to think out an elaborate plan such as this for a game.

A silly goose.
You hilarious feathered creature.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2012-02-02 17:23:46 UTC
Mods Muvila wrote:
There's only one thing you call someone who takes enough time to think out an elaborate plan such as this for a game.

A silly goose.


Also, a winner Cool

Seriousness: you can't win at a game if you don't take the time to think it through. No matter what your game, sport, hobby, or activity is, you will never be *good* at it unless you apply some thought to it. Also, it doesn't take me long to think out plans like what I have in mind. I think I spent about five minutes on this. Which is like three hours for a normal person. (in before the Roll, it's a joke guys)

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mods Muvila
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-02-02 17:29:34 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Mods Muvila wrote:
There's only one thing you call someone who takes enough time to think out an elaborate plan such as this for a game.

A silly goose.


Also, a winner Cool

Seriousness: you can't win at a game if you don't take the time to think it through. No matter what your game, sport, hobby, or activity is, you will never be *good* at it unless you apply some thought to it. Also, it doesn't take me long to think out plans like what I have in mind. I think I spent about five minutes on this. Which is like three hours for a normal person. (in before the Roll, it's a joke guys)


OH , apologies, we're talking about a genius here who does things in five minutes that normal people do in 3 hours. I feel bad for the women in your life sir.
You hilarious feathered creature.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#13 - 2012-02-02 17:40:30 UTC
Mods Muvila wrote:
OH , apologies, we're talking about a genius here who does things in five minutes that normal people do in 3 hours. I feel bad for the women in your life sir.

*slowclap* An excellent comeback to something I already stated wasn't true. You really zinged me there.

Anywho, I feel no need to justify this. If enough people participate in this scheme and we do succeed in changing the Incursion culture, I'll post the next step in a plan that has potential for some hilarity.

If not...at least I tried. v0v

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mods Muvila
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-02-02 18:20:54 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Mods Muvila wrote:
OH , apologies, we're talking about a genius here who does things in five minutes that normal people do in 3 hours. I feel bad for the women in your life sir.

*slowclap* An excellent comeback to something I already stated wasn't true. You really zinged me there.

Anywho, I feel no need to justify this. If enough people participate in this scheme and we do succeed in changing the Incursion culture, I'll post the next step in a plan that has potential for some hilarity.

If not...at least I tried. v0v


"zinged", on par with 3rd graders, if I ever need anyone smacked, I know who to call now.

'Anywho', you're trying to be something you're not. You aren't a 'criminal mastermind', stop trying silly goose. You're on the forums trying to gain followers for your cause because people in game know what an idiot you are. I believe the expression goes "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?" Let's see some progress in your scheme, then maybe your words will mean something.
You hilarious feathered creature.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#15 - 2012-02-02 18:31:10 UTC
Mods Muvila wrote:
"zinged", on par with 3rd graders, if I ever need anyone smacked, I know who to call now.

After attempting to cast doubt on my abilities to please a woman, you're really trying to take the high road here?

Mods Muvila wrote:
You're on the forums trying to gain followers for your cause because people in game know what an idiot you are.

I've wondered how blissful ignorance truly is. Perhaps you could enlighten us?

Better yet, don't. You've crapped up my thread enough.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Mods Muvila
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-02 18:37:24 UTC
Quote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Mods Muvila wrote:
"zinged", on par with 3rd graders, if I ever need anyone smacked, I know who to call now.

After attempting to cast doubt on my abilities to please a woman, you're really trying to take the high road here?


Yes.

Quote:
Mods Muvila wrote:
You're on the forums trying to gain followers for your cause because people in game know what an idiot you are.

I've wondered how blissful ignorance truly is. Perhaps you could enlighten us?

Better yet, don't. You've crapped up my thread enough.


You're thread was crapped from the start, as in, when you started it.

You hilarious feathered creature.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#17 - 2012-02-02 19:16:18 UTC
Coming from your own alliance mate... bro... Your DUMB... these are the guy who started the entire incursion griefing scheme as it stands today and most of the tactics used by incursion bear greifers are things that they came up with... so please stop.. your dumb pretty plain and simple
Mods Muvila
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-02-02 19:22:56 UTC
Gary Bell wrote:
Coming from your own alliance mate... bro... Your DUMB... these are the guy who started the entire incursion griefing scheme as it stands today and most of the tactics used by incursion bear greifers are things that they came up with... so please stop.. your dumb pretty plain and simple


You're*

No more need be said, silly goose.
You hilarious feathered creature.
Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-02-02 19:49:36 UTC
Not one to state the bleedin' obvious here, but wont the incursion folks see this thread, send out a mail to all the other incursion people, to be aware of whats planned and just instruct ALL logi's not to accept or rep War targets? Period?

If you were really smart, you'd have kept this quiet and shared it with the people who already have an issue with incursions and built it up gradually as planned, but without announcing it publically.

It took me 5 seconds to think that one through, the first ones free Roll
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#20 - 2012-02-02 21:37:20 UTC
Roxwar wrote:
Not one to state the bleedin' obvious here, but wont the incursion folks see this thread, send out a mail to all the other incursion people, to be aware of whats planned and just instruct ALL logi's not to accept or rep War targets? Period?

If you were really smart, you'd have kept this quiet and shared it with the people who already have an issue with incursions and built it up gradually as planned, but without announcing it publically.

It took me 5 seconds to think that one through, the first ones free Roll


That was the first thing I thought of as well, but if this is going to gain any traction it needs to be done by more people than the few dozen I'd trust not to expose the scheme anyway.

Besides, i think you greatly overestimate the carebears. I actually did think this through quite a bit before posting it, and the possible outcomes I see (aside from it never going anywhere) are all worth the effort.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

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