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Ship Eater: "The Maw"

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Asmodai Xodai
#1 - 2016-11-09 14:46:37 UTC
Ships in this game kill other ships by shooting, whether it be lasers, artillery, missiles, whatever. I'm fine with that, but we can do better. Let us open our minds, be creative, and envision ships that fight in other ways.

IDEA

What about a largish ship type (subcap, at least battleship-size, probably larger), possibly classified as a 'salvage' ship, which would open a set of jaws and 'swallow' other ships? It would perhaps use stealth (cloaking) to close in on its targets. It wouldn't fit 'weapons' (lasers, etc), however it would have a good tank and it might fit something like webbing to slow its prey down (perhaps it would even be bonused for webs, maybe cloak). Perhaps it could fit a special tractor beam module that tractors ships into it's maw.

Anyway, here's the kicker: once it swallows a ship, that ship winds up in its cargo hold, and the pilot of the 'maw' ship is free to do whatever he wants with it :) I imagine the pilot of the 'victim' ship dies (is podded), but he could always eject before the inevitable.

I guess this would be a pirate ship, as I can't imagine this type of activity (the equivalent of 'carjacking') being condoned and encouraged by the major empires.

Personally I would love to see something like this, as well as other creative ship types that don't just "pew pew" at range.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-11-09 14:57:17 UTC
great just sit outside jita and gobble up everything, figured this was a troll at first...

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#3 - 2016-11-09 15:37:12 UTC
so it can get close to targets while cloaked and simply steal the ship without a fight, and without any chance of the other person fighting back?

How is that balanced?
Asmodai Xodai
#4 - 2016-11-09 15:53:36 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
so it can get close to targets while cloaked and simply steal the ship without a fight, and without any chance of the other person fighting back?

How is that balanced?


No no no, naturally it has to be balanced. I would envision it being decloaked on 2000m proximity, same as cloaking mechanics work now. And it would have to decloak to attack anyway. The cloak would just give it a chance to get close.

I don't think the 'eating' would simply be automatic. The pilot would have to maneuver his ship so that he gets his jaws around the victim - sort of a 'ram' maneuver I guess, with jaws open. Webs, afterburner/MWD etc, might assist with this, and/or special tractor beam. The victim would, and should, have a chance to escape with correct piloting and evasive maneuvers.
Asmodai Xodai
#5 - 2016-11-09 15:55:25 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
great just sit outside jita and gobble up everything, figured this was a troll at first...


Well that would elicit a response from CONCORD would it not?
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#6 - 2016-11-09 16:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
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#7 - 2016-11-09 18:09:23 UTC
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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2016-11-09 18:20:40 UTC
How about making it invincible as well, where the way you kill it is by flying a Constitution-class starship ( a cruiser) into its mouth?
Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues
Hookers N' Blow
#9 - 2016-11-09 19:01:54 UTC
Asmodai Xodai wrote:
Ships in this game kill other ships by shooting, whether it be lasers, artillery, missiles, whatever. I'm fine with that, but we can do better. Let us open our minds, be creative, and envision ships that fight in other ways.

IDEA



Personally I would love to see something like this, as well as other creative ship types that don't just "pew pew" at range.


Can we make this poop out a smaller ship, so if it eats a cruiser you get pooped out in a full fitted destroyer, and lets top it off with a burp frigate..

+1

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2016-11-09 19:41:03 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#11 - 2016-11-09 20:55:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Lol at the other answers.

On a more serious note: this would not work. For many reasons.

- Ships don't have an actual "front"... everything is seen as a "sphere" by the server. The client determines your graphical "front" based on your trajectory.

- it is really easy to close in a 2000m gap. There is an old tactic where cloaking ships will reclaim, hit their AB/MWD, and bump a ship they want to attack... that way the target cannot warp away while the decloaking ship is going through its targeting penalty.

- the server does not like players being "inside" other players. This is an old issue.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#12 - 2016-11-09 20:59:54 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
- the server does not like players being "inside" other players. This is an old issue.


but what if I like other players being inside of me?

I agree we need to address this issue
Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues
Hookers N' Blow
#13 - 2016-11-10 15:27:41 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
- the server does not like players being "inside" other players. This is an old issue.


but what if I like other players being inside of me?

I agree we need to address this issue


What if i like bieng inside other players specifically this persons avatar.

What if we are both in these Maw's and we try and eat each other? What happens then. We go on a double ended cormorant?
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#14 - 2016-11-10 15:30:36 UTC
Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
- the server does not like players being "inside" other players. This is an old issue.


but what if I like other players being inside of me?

I agree we need to address this issue


What if i like bieng inside other players specifically this persons avatar.

What if we are both in these Maw's and we try and eat each other? What happens then. We go on a double ended cormorant?


That would make it a double Ouroboronaut .

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Cristl
#15 - 2016-11-10 16:38:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Enterprise S2 E18

You Only Live Twice.

'bout 2 minutes in

My SPECTRE fleet joke will have to wait. Curse you Gravenstein!
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#16 - 2016-11-10 21:39:10 UTC
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El Expedicion
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#17 - 2016-11-10 22:27:35 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Eye-Luv-Girls wDaddyIssues wrote:
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
- the server does not like players being "inside" other players. This is an old issue.


but what if I like other players being inside of me?

I agree we need to address this issue


What if i like bieng inside other players specifically this persons avatar.

What if we are both in these Maw's and we try and eat each other? What happens then. We go on a double ended cormorant?


That would make it a double Ouroboronaut .

--Gadget


Ha.