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Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#461 - 2016-11-08 15:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Steffles
Keno Skir wrote:
People who invoke the "you aren't real pvp'ers because you don't take risks" understand nothing of combat. The only thing that matters is who's left standing at the end, not how much faux bravado / honor you did it with.

I like to make fun of CODE as much as the next guy believe me :) But they organized to accomplish something that got repeatedly nerfed and for that they are kinda keeping with the spirit of EvE.

I love it -

Ganker: We take risks, we lose ships, do plan, we scout, we lose loot.
Anti-Ganker: You fly 2 million isk Catalysts.
Ganker: EvE is all about risk vs reward. High sec should not be this SAFE.
Anti-Ganker: You don't take risks at all, you use disposable ships and disposable alts and you're too scared to post with a main.
Ganker: It doesn't matter, we don't have to take risks, all that matters is who's left standing!!!!1111

Ironically they're all left in pods...

Like arguing with a ******** monkey....


Lan Wang wrote:

But tbh you are not actually answering any questions you are asked here, all you are doing is ranting and crying and calling doomsday on gankers while you think ccp will change the game to favour your gameplay just so you can plex your accounts.

I don't go to highsec except to buy a ship or a mod. I don't haul, manufacture, or do anything even remotely industrial or pve except occasionally I'll run an anom in null to test something out if I'm too lazy to log into sisi.

Its not my gameplay and your sad antics don't affect me at all. I just like to expose carebearism, especially when people dress it up as pvp. Much like I exposed Goons sig farming that time. Was fun and enjoyable.

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#462 - 2016-11-08 15:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Black Pedro
Mine.
#463 - 2016-11-08 15:36:31 UTC
Steffles wrote:
Galaxy Duck wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Steffles wrote:
A real EvE player is somebody that undocks in a non-newb ship and fights other players, or undocks in a battleship or a barge. Real EvE players risk assets.

Which begs the question, why do you scream in favour of carebears so much if you don't even consider them to be real EvE players?


Lol I always love it when they cry because we fly cheap.

"I'm talking about REAL risk!" they wail "Not your 2 mil catalysts!!!1!" (They think we all fly 2 mil cats) Lololol

I think you're all about to become extinct.
That seems like a bad bet 13.5 years into the lifespan of this game but no one can fault you for being an optimist. I can't imagine though, sticking with a video game that I detest the core ideas of for that long, hoping that with every patch the developers will finally fundamentally change it and make a 'safe space', not even for me though because I am a tough guy, but for some imagined group of other downtrodden players. Well, no one can fault you for a lack of perseverance either.

But anything is possible I suppose. Too bad third-party gambling becomes a EULA transgression today or we could have placed some ISK on it.

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Keno Skir
#464 - 2016-11-08 15:50:11 UTC
Steffles wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
People who invoke the "you aren't real pvp'ers because you don't take risks" understand nothing of combat. The only thing that matters is who's left standing at the end, not how much faux bravado / honor you did it with.

I like to make fun of CODE as much as the next guy believe me :) But they organized to accomplish something that got repeatedly nerfed and for that they are kinda keeping with the spirit of EvE.

I love it -

Ganker: We take risks, we lose ships, do plan, we scout, we lose loot.
Anti-Ganker: You fly 2 million isk Catalysts.
Ganker: EvE is all about risk vs reward. High sec should not be this SAFE.
Anti-Ganker: You don't take risks at all, you use disposable ships and disposable alts and you're too scared to post with a main.
Ganker: It doesn't matter, we don't have to take risks, all that matters is who's left standing!!!!1111

Ironically they're all left in pods...

Like arguing with a ******** monkey....


I have never ganked anyone you absolute fail troll :)

I have enjoyed and agreed with some of your posts but your shpeel about "real pvp" makes you sound like a scrub. Anyone who has been in this game a long time (and understood it) knows real pvp is where someone dies at the hands of another player, the method is meaningless.

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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#465 - 2016-11-08 15:54:51 UTC
Steffles wrote:
Galaxy Duck wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Steffles wrote:
A real EvE player is somebody that undocks in a non-newb ship and fights other players, or undocks in a battleship or a barge. Real EvE players risk assets.

Which begs the question, why do you scream in favour of carebears so much if you don't even consider them to be real EvE players?


Lol I always love it when they cry because we fly cheap.

"I'm talking about REAL risk!" they wail "Not your 2 mil catalysts!!!1!" (They think we all fly 2 mil cats) Lololol

I think you're all about to become extinct.


And when that doesn't happen, will you rage-quit and biomass all your characters like Pajedas?
Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#466 - 2016-11-08 15:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Steffles
Lan Wang wrote:
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?

Most people are aware of who my main and alt is. I know who Snuff is, not long ago attacked your gatecamp in Saranen in my awesome Proteus, it unfortunately died at 15/1 but was worth a shot, Snuff definitely gank in highsec so I'd say if the shoe fits.

As for my sig, I'd suggest sertraline, citalopram but maybe stay away from venlaxafine, sides are pretty bad.


Keno Skir wrote:

I have enjoyed and agreed with some of your posts but your shpeel about "real pvp" makes you sound like a scrub. Anyone who has been in this game a long time (and understood it) knows real pvp is where someone dies at the hands of another player, the method is meaningless.

Defending gankers makes you a ganker apologist, usually someone who agree's with ganking because they're a) niave b) too scared to say what they really think.

Whether you've agreed with or liked my posts is irrelevant. I dislike a lot of posters on these forums but i'll like or agree with them if I feel what they're saying is correct. I don't let my bias towards them influence my objectivity about the topic.

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#467 - 2016-11-08 16:00:41 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?

He is Infinity Ziona. A well know troll who is failing at EVE for over 13 years.

Evil RatKid
Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#468 - 2016-11-08 16:05:12 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?

He is Infinity Ziona. A well know troll who is failing at EVE for over 13 years.

^^ Perhaps but not failing so much that I've resorted to sitting at gates in highsec in a thrasher. I ganked two barges when they came out and felt it was too easy and my awesome skill and intelligence meant I could go on to greater and better things, like forming Privateers, exposing Goon hypocrisy, getting war decs nerfed, capitals given cooldowns and the list goes on and on....

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#469 - 2016-11-08 16:08:51 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?

He is Infinity Ziona. A well know troll who is failing at EVE for over 13 years.


god this is golden

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#470 - 2016-11-08 16:13:25 UTC
Steffles wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?


Most people are aware of who my main and alt is.

I know who Snuff is, not long ago I welped to your gatecamp in Tama in my untanked sh****t Proteus, it obviously died because it was bad, but was worth feeding, Snuff definitely gank in highsec so I'd say if the shoe fits.


Im gonna fix this for you now i know your main...

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#471 - 2016-11-08 16:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Steffles
Lan Wang wrote:
Steffles wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
so what do you do in the game then? seen as that is just an npc alt to hide your main.

my sad antics...ill give you free intel here as you seem to be unable to research, i dont got to highsec, im what YOU define as a "real EVE player"

Edit: your sig is triggering me as you dont even seem to be able to spell "CCP" properly, do you even play eve?


Most people are aware of who my main and alt is.

I know who Snuff is, not long ago I welped to your gatecamp in Tama in my untanked sh****t Proteus, it obviously died because it was bad, but was worth feeding, Snuff definitely gank in highsec so I'd say if the shoe fits.


Im gonna fix this for you now i know your main...

I felt sorry for you guys. You obviously needed help getting kills and if I'd tanked it up I might have killed that stratios I took into armor before you all popped me.

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#472 - 2016-11-08 16:25:58 UTC
no, you were just being bad

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#473 - 2016-11-08 16:28:02 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
no, you were just being bad

Bad is relative. I think bad is 15 grown men sitting on a gate popping single ships. You think bad is someone taking on 15 ships on a gatecamp in a Proteus.

No agreement will be reached here today but give me my bad over yours any day.

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#474 - 2016-11-08 16:30:37 UTC
Steffles wrote:

^^ Perhaps but not failing so much that I've resorted to sitting at gates in highsec in a thrasher. I ganked two barges when they came out and felt it was too easy and my awesome skill and intelligence meant I could go on to greater and better things, like forming Privateers, exposing Goon hypocrisy, getting war decs nerfed, capitals given cooldowns and the list goes on and on....

So those "greater and better things" basically boil down to crying on the forums for changes in your favor? Good job. I really doubt you had something to do with the mentioned changes though.

Evil RatKid
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#475 - 2016-11-08 16:34:26 UTC
So wait, I'm confused, are you really a whining carebear or you just pretend to be?

Man, that's meta.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#476 - 2016-11-08 16:35:26 UTC
Steffles wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
no, you were just being bad

Bad is relative. I think bad is 15 grown men sitting on a gate popping single ships. You think bad is someone taking on 15 ships on a gatecamp in a Proteus.

No agreement will be reached here today but give me my bad over yours any day.


right because horde are very proactive fair fights yeah? any neut goes near a horde system with anything then they are getting blobbed by 100+ players, you didnt take them on, you bought it in highsec and jumped into tama with a gatecamp of 10 players with logi

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#477 - 2016-11-08 16:35:43 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Steffles wrote:

^^ Perhaps but not failing so much that I've resorted to sitting at gates in highsec in a thrasher. I ganked two barges when they came out and felt it was too easy and my awesome skill and intelligence meant I could go on to greater and better things, like forming Privateers, exposing Goon hypocrisy, getting war decs nerfed, capitals given cooldowns and the list goes on and on....

So those "greater and better things" basically boil down to crying on the forums for changes in your favor? Good job. I really doubt you had something to do with the mentioned changes though.

You'd be wrong

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Steffles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#478 - 2016-11-08 16:53:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Steffles
Lan Wang wrote:
Steffles wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
no, you were just being bad

Bad is relative. I think bad is 15 grown men sitting on a gate popping single ships. You think bad is someone taking on 15 ships on a gatecamp in a Proteus.

No agreement will be reached here today but give me my bad over yours any day.


right because horde are very proactive fair fights yeah? any neut goes near a horde system with anything then they are getting blobbed by 100+ players, you didnt take them on, you bought it in highsec and jumped into tama with a gatecamp of 10 players with logi

Actually I took it from 7rm down the pipe and couldn't get a fight so I decided that the first fight I got I'd take it irrespective of what it was. Fortunately I found some dweebs sitting on a gate in Tama otherwise I would have probably ended up circumnavigating the map.

Here you go, posted about it a while ago:

Quote:
Reading your posts you obviously understand where I'm coming from. If you look at my last kill on Zkill I undocked my Proteus from 7RM for a solo roam. I managed to scram a proc on a gate after about an hour of roaming which promptly ECM burst me and warped off lol. Props to him. Spent another hour roaming, scrammed a navy omen which crashed the gate, everything else ran away. Got frustrated so I set my autopilot to high and promised myself I'd engage the first gate camp I came across. Got followed by a couple of ships here and there but even outnumbered they wouldn't engage. When I got to Tama there were 10 Tishu on the gate which I attacked and died to but that was my fight for the night lol.

Link

Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Valkyrie Harkonnen
Doomheim
#479 - 2016-11-08 18:16:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkyrie Harkonnen
I think that the wardeck system has to be revamped. As of now it doesn't work as a declaration of war towards an enemy but a griefing tactic.

I know that griefing is allowed but i believe when devs created the wardec system their intention wasn't giving free kills to corps against others for self amusement.

In hardcore pvp oriented games like Darkfall, going into war against another clan or against another colation means a huge amount of strategy and preparation which means tons of fun for both sides.

In EVE only the attacker has fun and hes having fun by exploiting a game concept that wasn't intended to work like that.


The result is that loads of new players quit the game as soon as they realize that if they like PVE mostly they will have a crippled experience. Unlike Darkfall, EVE punishes players for not having a strict PVP mindset. Mind you that Darkfall is a PVP oriented sandbox as well with full loot drop on each death.


If CCP is trying to get its playerbase renewed to live more 10 years then the only way to make so is to attract those they didn't like in the past, the carebears. And gimp alpha accounts won't make a difference when new players realize that they can't be PVErs in the game and socialize in a corporation. They will choose between playing solo or quitting.

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Corbain Huesin
Doomheim
#480 - 2016-11-08 18:17:58 UTC
After much deliberation, Ive concluded that the game cannot be improved. We should set the servers on fire and start from scratch tomorrow.