These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Player Features and Ideas Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

CCP, Why no drone implants?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
C02
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-11-04 20:52:01 UTC
I feel there is a huge niche for drone implants. Or would that be OP? we should find out. Drone speed set? drone durability set? Def no drone damage set, maybe a skill hardwiring tho? Thoughts?
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#2 - 2016-11-04 22:02:10 UTC
Damage would be broken, but drone tracking, drone speed, drone durability. Drone control range might be OK too, as long as you can't stack it with speed, since the benefit to projection is offset by the drone travel time and fact you can blow up the drones.

But also, think of the noncombat drones. Drone mining is about to get a big buff, so drone mining implants and drone salvaging implants (perhaps even a drone cap increase for mining/salvaging for a set bonus, allowing a flight of 6 miners/salvagers?)
Lugh Crow-Slave
#3 - 2016-11-05 02:08:12 UTC
go back watch fanfest for this year they already have ideas for this. if they happen i would expect it to be when the guitarists capitals are added i'm still waiting on the shield HP line that was supposed to be added with the armor rep line :/

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
C02
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-11-05 06:16:09 UTC
PopeUrban wrote:
Damage would be broken, but drone tracking, drone speed, drone durability. Drone control range might be OK too, as long as you can't stack it with speed, since the benefit to projection is offset by the drone travel time and fact you can blow up the drones.

But also, think of the noncombat drones. Drone mining is about to get a big buff, so drone mining implants and drone salvaging implants (perhaps even a drone cap increase for mining/salvaging for a set bonus, allowing a flight of 6 miners/salvagers?)



I love that idea. I can see it now, a set that allows one additional salvage drone per implant, maybe cuts salvaging time on turrets as well or adds range? It would ass a whole new subsect of people who would ninja salvage big fleet fights, Its probably broken as **** because of the possible payouts depending on the size of the fight but thats just my inner jew showing.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2016-11-05 07:06:58 UTC
you want to add more salvaging to the game?

1. easiest way is let us probe down wrecks (idk why this isn't a thing)
1a make it so wrecks dont de-spawn as fast (maybe give them a week)

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#6 - 2016-11-05 14:55:11 UTC
Since you are advocating for drone implants, the Gila and the baby-Gila are missing 20 cpu and a low-slot each.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-11-06 06:12:05 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Since you are advocating for drone implants, the Gila and the baby-Gila are missing 20 cpu and a low-slot each.



they did seem to go after them a bit hard. The low slot...okay give them that. Its that cpu that was over the top. I have some fits....has me getting flashback to first 6 months of eve really. Most of fit named low meta level gear. Its the only thing that fits really. PVe fits are funny as the mods can be more than the ship. Pvp....if caught and dropped the km's will have people going wtf is the low sp noob doing in a worm. Can you fit anything t2 bedsides launchers? Well yes I can....the CPU grid gives me the middle finger though sadly. With...the cpu rig fit even.


But in terms of OP, it be the drone implants and these boats...probably get them nerfed again. Plus other drone options. Aww crap, there;s the gila and worm pilots offsetting nerfs by implants. Case of gila and worm, its the tracking you can't get because omni mods not really possible most fits (they can fit, its just you get alot of tradeoffs in the process) that would have a tracking implant loved. And a drone navigation one too. I view drone navi comp as an extension to damage application. I run heavy rattler....faster I get heavies on target faster they start to put out the pain.


Rattlesnake.....would say oh yes please do too. Any drone rigs available usually not an option. Its your cap rigs and/or missile rigs if active rattler, or purgers if passive fit. These implants and ability to fit omni's,navi comp, etc.....would be up many people's alley really.

Can't speak for Domi as never flew really. Survey says implants would get back most of the nerfs that have been handed out over time as well. IIRC tracking was nerfed in short order after an AT a few years back where you were genuinely amazed when you DIDN'T see a comp based on Domi core setup.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#8 - 2016-11-06 14:35:06 UTC
I would expect that if/when they add Drone implants, they will also nerf all drones correspondingly.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2016-11-06 15:57:48 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
I would expect that if/when they add Drone implants, they will also nerf all drones correspondingly.

My concerns as well.
If these implants add to what we have that would be OK, if they nerf the drones or ships that use them as a part of this then not so good. Best be careful what you ask for when dealing with CCP.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#10 - 2016-11-07 05:38:17 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
I would expect that if/when they add Drone implants, they will also nerf all drones correspondingly.

My concerns as well.
If these implants add to what we have that would be OK, if they nerf the drones or ships that use them as a part of this then not so good. Best be careful what you ask for when dealing with CCP.



for those who still don't get this just remember the Missile guidance mods everyone demanded only to end with with a net nerf to all missile ships -.-

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Iain Cariaba
#11 - 2016-11-07 07:34:55 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
I would expect that if/when they add Drone implants, they will also nerf all drones correspondingly.

My concerns as well.
If these implants add to what we have that would be OK, if they nerf the drones or ships that use them as a part of this then not so good. Best be careful what you ask for when dealing with CCP.



for those who still don't get this just remember the Missile guidance mods everyone demanded only to end with with a net nerf to all missile ships -.-

Fitting slots on freighters
More tank on miners

Two more examples of where carebears whining for buffs has resulted in net nerfs.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-11-07 09:13:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
I would expect that if/when they add Drone implants, they will also nerf all drones correspondingly.

My concerns as well.
If these implants add to what we have that would be OK, if they nerf the drones or ships that use them as a part of this then not so good. Best be careful what you ask for when dealing with CCP.



for those who still don't get this just remember the Missile guidance mods everyone demanded only to end with with a net nerf to all missile ships -.-




we try to forget. Oh here is your MGC and.....oh....we now have rigor stacking penalized as well. And mgc stack penalties with rigor too for explosion radius fixing. All these people had to do was just run paint like many advised, we'd have old unstacked rigor still and life would be better.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#13 - 2016-11-07 09:38:33 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
I would expect that if/when they add Drone implants, they will also nerf all drones correspondingly.

My concerns as well.
If these implants add to what we have that would be OK, if they nerf the drones or ships that use them as a part of this then not so good. Best be careful what you ask for when dealing with CCP.



for those who still don't get this just remember the Missile guidance mods everyone demanded only to end with with a net nerf to all missile ships -.-




we try to forget. Oh here is your MGC and.....oh....we now have rigor stacking penalized as well. And mgc stack penalties with rigor too for explosion radius fixing. All these people had to do was just run paint like many advised, we'd have old unstacked rigor still and life would be better.


don't even get me started cost us so much tank now that we have to use rigs+mids to get the same effect

and don't forget they also kicked while we were down "to counter" the MGC they also added the MGD but didn't give us a Remote MGC to compensate

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2016-11-07 09:57:05 UTC
Drones are too volatile a system to have buffs on.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#15 - 2016-11-07 13:01:35 UTC
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#16 - 2016-11-07 20:37:32 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Because drones would hack your mind an make you one of their own. Especially those rouge ones.


Rouge drones are the worst, always trying to give you a "free makeover" at their automated department store counters. That makeover is never free. They're trying to guilt you in to a sale.