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Lawrence Lawton
The Lawton School for Pubbies Who Can't Mine Good
Novus Ordo.
#21 - 2016-11-02 22:27:48 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Actually had to call the REAL WORLD police about an escalating situation today involving CODE members so let's just say not only do I agree but I do NOT want to get involved with this right now.


Calm down, miner, and send me 10m ISK for a permit. Compliance is therapeutic.



I'm not a miner, never have been, and I have never had any contact with CODE in the game, ever. Yet I had to call the police about one of your members within the last 24 hours and then your members show up in this unrelated thread. This is definately an out of game incident. Does that sound like something funny or something related to roleplaying (the topic of this thread) to you? Normally a corp member would be interested in messaging such a person, asking "Hey I heard something is wrong, what is going on, what happened, who did it?" Seems like the stuff I am hearing about your organization is not only completely true it is indicative of a much larger sickness relating to Eve's attitudes towards women, anyone different, roleplayers and anyone else who wants to play game they way they want to.



I only call you miner because your manner of expression resembles that of a miner. It will reassure you to know that permits are mandatory for all pilots in James 315 space. I'd be eager to hear more about the alleged incident, but without a permit your credibility is extremely dubious. This is a Knight of the New Order you're impugning, after all.
Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#22 - 2016-11-02 22:33:06 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Seems like the stuff I am hearing about your organization is not only completely true it is indicative of a much larger sickness relating to Eve's attitudes towards women, anyone different, roleplayers and anyone else who wants to play game they way they want to.

This thread too? Can you not? Please?

Welcome to EvE, a dark, dystopian, vision of the future based on the assumption that in the end humanity will find a way to immortalize itself with technology so that hatred, greed, and war can cause chaos forever across the stars.
EvE is mean. You and I don't have to be, but that is the challenge we both accepted when we logged in.

The vast majority of players here are genuinely good people outside of the game. Many Role Play the villain, because it's fun and is a necessary part of the content creation equation that we all rely on.

There are most definately some scumbaggy creepers here just like in any other game. They can be called out or you can direct mods towards them or what have you. Our GMs, ISDs, Devs, etc. are actually very good at keeping the game "civil."
Just stop making such sweeping statements about "EvE's much larger sickness."

That's annoying.

The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#23 - 2016-11-02 22:33:53 UTC
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Actually had to call the REAL WORLD police about an escalating situation today involving CODE members so let's just say not only do I agree but I do NOT want to get involved with this right now.


Calm down, miner, and send me 10m ISK for a permit. Compliance is therapeutic.



I'm not a miner, never have been, and I have never had any contact with CODE in the game, ever. Yet I had to call the police about one of your members within the last 24 hours and then your members show up in this unrelated thread. This is definately an out of game incident. Does that sound like something funny or something related to roleplaying (the topic of this thread) to you? Normally a corp member would be interested in messaging such a person, asking "Hey I heard something is wrong, what is going on, what happened, who did it?" Seems like the stuff I am hearing about your organization is not only completely true it is indicative of a much larger sickness relating to Eve's attitudes towards women, anyone different, roleplayers and anyone else who wants to play game they way they want to.



I only call you miner because your manner of expression resembles that of a miner. It will reassure you to know that permits are mandatory for all pilots in James 315 space. I'd be eager to hear more about the alleged incident, but without a permit your credibility is extremely dubious. This is a Knight of the New Order you're impugning, after all.



Yeah I'm sure you're eager to hear all about it except for the fact that at this point I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lone wolf and you were all probably laughing about it on comms together My manner of expression is that of a woman, so by "miner" do you mean women? Sounds about right, after all this is a corp that has lulz about dead toddlers. (a story that was posted online so not IRL right)

You're just a really fun jokey organization all around arn't you? It just gets better and better.

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#24 - 2016-11-02 22:36:41 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Wow OP, you should really calm down. The only one who drags stuff into RL here sems to be you. No one cares what gender you are and if you make idiotic statements on the forums you should really expect to get wardeced for it.

Btw, what did the police say when you told them someone wardeced you in an internet spaceship game? *grabs popcorn*


So you think everything that happens in Eve and online and on these forums is not "real" and jump to the conclusion I need to "calm down" because I called the police "about wardeccing".

Someone is out of touch with reality here and it's certainly not me. My characters story is fiction, but that's about it. I believe I am talking to real people and my actions online have real consequences. I really wonder what you think "wardeccing" actually is. Is that "CODE" for something? You can obviously see im not wardecced, you're in your corp.

Ok, my bad, it was not about wardecing, I will rephrase the question.

What did the police say when you told them that someone said they will shoot your spaceship in a spaceship shooting game?
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#25 - 2016-11-02 22:37:38 UTC
Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Seems like the stuff I am hearing about your organization is not only completely true it is indicative of a much larger sickness relating to Eve's attitudes towards women, anyone different, roleplayers and anyone else who wants to play game they way they want to.

This thread too? Can you not? Please?

Welcome to EvE, a dark, dystopian, vision of the future based on the assumption that in the end humanity will find a way to immortalize itself with technology so that hatred, greed, and war can cause chaos forever across the stars.
EvE is mean. You and I don't have to be, but that is the challenge we both accepted when we logged in.

The vast majority of players here are genuinely good people outside of the game. Many Role Play the villain, because it's fun and is a necessary part of the content creation equation that we all rely on.

There are most definately some scumbaggy creepers here just like in any other game. They can be called out or you can direct mods towards them or what have you. Our GMs, ISDs, Devs, etc. are actually very good at keeping the game "civil."
Just stop making such sweeping statements about "EvE's much larger sickness."

That's annoying.




Says the guy using the name Sitting Bull Lakota. None of us Lakota would ever disrespect his name by using it as the name of a character in a video game. Can you not? Please?

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-

Lawrence Lawton
The Lawton School for Pubbies Who Can't Mine Good
Novus Ordo.
#26 - 2016-11-02 22:56:50 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Lawrence Lawton wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Actually had to call the REAL WORLD police about an escalating situation today involving CODE members so let's just say not only do I agree but I do NOT want to get involved with this right now.


Calm down, miner, and send me 10m ISK for a permit. Compliance is therapeutic.



I'm not a miner, never have been, and I have never had any contact with CODE in the game, ever. Yet I had to call the police about one of your members within the last 24 hours and then your members show up in this unrelated thread. This is definately an out of game incident. Does that sound like something funny or something related to roleplaying (the topic of this thread) to you? Normally a corp member would be interested in messaging such a person, asking "Hey I heard something is wrong, what is going on, what happened, who did it?" Seems like the stuff I am hearing about your organization is not only completely true it is indicative of a much larger sickness relating to Eve's attitudes towards women, anyone different, roleplayers and anyone else who wants to play game they way they want to.



I only call you miner because your manner of expression resembles that of a miner. It will reassure you to know that permits are mandatory for all pilots in James 315 space. I'd be eager to hear more about the alleged incident, but without a permit your credibility is extremely dubious. This is a Knight of the New Order you're impugning, after all.



Yeah I'm sure you're eager to hear all about it except for the fact that at this point I'm pretty sure it wasn't a lone wolf and you were all probably laughing about it on comms together My manner of expression is that of a woman, so by "miner" do you mean women? Sounds about right, after all this is a corp that has lulz about dead toddlers. (a story that was posted online so not IRL right)

You're just a really fun jokey organization all around arn't you? It just gets better and better.



Not to put too fine a point on it, but the manner expression I'm referring to is crying. Crying like a highsec miner.
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#27 - 2016-11-02 22:59:56 UTC
And by miner you mean woman or to put it more in CODE's terms, a girl, right? I see what you did there.

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-

Lawrence Lawton
The Lawton School for Pubbies Who Can't Mine Good
Novus Ordo.
#28 - 2016-11-02 23:23:04 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
And by miner you mean woman or to put it more in CODE's terms, a girl, right? I see what you did there.


No, just a regular miner, the kind who thinks that a PvP game is a great place to go AFK in a poorly defended barge. They are well known for their tears, which is why I made the assumption. Check out minerbumping.com some time. I don't know or care what your real life sex is, but the more you claim you're a female the more doubtful it becomes.

I need you to go ahead and stop with the prejudice against minorities. The only thing that's certain is that you are noncompliant and in dire need of the Code.

"Prejudice toward minorities is not permitted. For the sake of clarity, this cannot apply to all groups claiming minority status, but only discrete and insular minorities, which are defined as suicide gankers, Goons, and others who oppose highsec mining." -- The Code
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2016-11-02 23:26:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
The Golden Serpent wrote:
And by miner you mean woman or to put it more in CODE's terms, a girl, right? I see what you did there.

No, that's not a reference to gender.

It's a reference to how someone thinks. Highsec miner in this usage is referring to a Carebears. Someone who doesn't take responsibility for their gaming experience, and either expects CCP to keep them safe or projects judgements about people IRL because of the way they play the game (including the forum, which is used by many as part of the meta game).

Nothing at all sexist in it. They treat everyone the same.

Best thing you can do is not let it get to you and just move on. Adding fuel to the fire isn't going to help (or, in many ways here, starting the fire).
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#30 - 2016-11-02 23:28:35 UTC
Quote:

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Please play by the rules, or don't play at all. Thank you.

Thread closed.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

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