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Actually that does sound more accurate. Minmatar description is a lot better then mine.

The Caldari had a big push for pride in "The State" when Tibus Heth was in charge and some of it still remains, thats the only reason i say it has some fascist qualities to it. This is the whole the Corporation exist to benefit the State concept. beyond that the legislation is mainly dictated by the cooperation of the Mega Corps sense the fall of Tibus Heth. While this does have similarities to a Federal Republic, its at the Mega Corps levels of governing that is a bit different from the upper level.

A Target Painter bonused combat ships would be amazing. Would love to see a Caldari styled slot layout with a TP bonus and a more Minmatar power grid. It would also be very interesting to see a Pirate faction with hard counters to the Caldari use of ECM.

You should try using a TP in a fleet of derptrons, or with Arty. They can be a real game changer when you have the DPS but application is hard due to a reliance on speed. The idea that they are ineffective is propagated by solo combat, and slow moving ships trying to use them to hit fast moving ships. When you are a fast ship and you want to help your fleet apply better DPS they are perfect.

Anything I have said is through the scope of my experience in Fac War. I am sure other people have other experiences that change all that.

I Never said there ineffective just useful in only certain situations. Best used when larger ships need to hit smaller ships, thus best used with missle boats. I say this because ive seen Arty still miss even with TP. While Missiles almost allways hit so TP usually most effective when combined with them.

On the topic of the thread, Please CCP make more Caldari Minnie Lore. It would be so interesting to have more to go on here. It is so hard to play a Caldari aligned Expat from the republic right now. The Caldari could really use some love and plot points after Heth and all of this.

What I actually meant was that if you were in a pair or higher, you would target paint each other. This would some use the skin of your ship and ampilfy your smart bomb.

Allow me to preface my thoughts on the topic by saying that I am very fond of the idea posited earlier that these two factions might contribute a non-combat offering more suitable than the usual pirate fare.

Let’s look at some recent changes to the marketplace in New Eden: SoE research into Drifter and clone technologies through Project Discovery, the colonization of Thera, the foundation of Upwell Consortium and the nascence of the Citadel. The overarching theme of these recent developments is in research as a means to commerce.

For a case in point, let us look to the SoE faction ships. Jointly developed by SoE, Carthum Conglomerate, Eifyr & Co., Chemal Tech, Propel Dynamics, and Zero-G Research, these ships set the new standard for exploration vessels. Though it should come as no surprise, under the SoE banner these disparate ‘minor actors’ contributed their expertise to a multilateral effort, and the results changed the cluster.

So, too, did the Citadel, and the Upwell Consortium that brought them to New Eden was again an effort that pulled specialists from across the cluster: Chemal Tech, Eifyr & Co., Intaki Bank, Mordu's Legion, Ytiri and Zoar & Sons. Members of each empire forging ahead in the pursuit of commercial glory. Here, it may be argued that a pattern in emerging, where NPC corporations behave a little more like player corporations, independent of national interests not overlapping with their own.

To my knowledge, there is no extant NPC entity that folds the skillsets of the Minmatar and Caldari together, as we see with groups such as Mordu’s Legion (Gallente/Caldari) or the Blood Raider Covenant (Amarr/Minmatar). As such, it may be necessary to create one. Whatever such a newly-developed faction is called, I couldn’t say, but CCP have shown a willingness to blend the lore into new game features of late, so maybe if the iron is hot it will beg striking.

In particular, if the ‘minor actors’ banding together to a greater purpose is an indication, we could look to some existing NPC corporations who may still wish to contribute to a new venture of their own.

On the Minmatar side, the corps dedicated to advanced research are already represented in the ‘Faction goods’ marketplace, namely Core Complexion Inc. and Boundless Creation. However, there are a couple that are overlooked, possibly because their focus is not on security research, but infrastructure: Urban Management and Six Kin Development. We can see that UM is a medium-sized company (actually quite small by EVE standards), and the Tribes Sebiestor, Krusual, Vherokior, and Brutor are themselves the shareholders. While they perform some housing and manufacturing functions, their primary commodity is information, and their primary purpose is the administration of public records. Their market activity is limited mostly to general goods along with freight and storage equipment. The work they offer to capsuleers comes in the form of material distribution and Republic security, though the number of agents they employ is rather sparse.

Alternately, we can look to Six Kin, who are controlled through a majority stake held by the Brutor Tribe. SKD are a regional concern, larger than UM and a sometimes direct competitor to boot. Seen as a key player in the Republic construction marketplace, their activity includes general commodities, freight/storage equipment, and more interestingly, space station structural components. We can come back to that later. While their capsuleer agency is comparable in size and scope to UM, they do one better by adding a division for resource acquisition.

Turning now to the Caldari, who have a fair bit more diversity amidst their corporate pantheon, I’d like to look at a couple of possible crossover entities, beginning with Ytiri. They are a sizable corp, closer to parity with SKD, and as former smugglers their focus was almost entirely on distribution and logistics chain management. However, with the advent of Citadels their fortunes have seemingly reversed, and they now maintain a large supply presence in structural and standup module blueprints It is true that they have already profited from the sort of partnerships that have seen recent success in the cluster, that same bottom line might encourage them to expand toward their southern reaches in constellations such as Mivora and Inkelm. Perhaps most importantly of all, they are partly owned by the Republic Justice Department, and while the stake is small at 7%, it might be considered less than Caldari to sniff at a dividend margin that size.

This brings me to my other potential Caldari player and Ytiri shareholder, Top Down. As a subsidiary of Lai Dai, they are small like UM, and rely on their parent company to research the innovations which they then turn toward manufacture and industry. In particular, their market activity shows a heavy consumption of minerals with supply-side dominated by a robust array of moon mining and chemical reactions. While they offer some agency details for capsuleers, operations are limited to distribution and mineral harvest in just a handful of star systems in Karnola.

One consideration which should not be dismissed is that the parent corporations for these Caldari concerns are both part of the Patriot bloc, and so there will likely be internal resistance to such a partnership with the Minmatar. Perhaps their deeply-held sensibilities will extend the corporate envelope around SKD or UM, and the latter’s Matari heritage may be viewed as secondary to their greater commercial contribution. I think it can be argued both ways, though it would be a tough sell in the ‘Caldari primacy’ boardroom.

One wild ward to keep in mind: Trust Partners. They are not friendly with the Republic military hardliners, and are known elsewhere in the cluster to be trustworthy legal operators. They are also not necessarily beholden to the Tribal Council as they are privately owned.

So, kind of a convoy transport ship? Probably actually capable of self-defense?

Combining four corporations while a war going of factions.
To be honest it looks so ridiculous and absurd that Hollywood seriyaly on this background looks very good.
Look what happens: There is a war over disputed territory, kill each other. And then a miracle occurs on the background of the war is the friendship of large construction corporations of these fractions.
Who is it all Coined ?

About the Citadels which can build without a good attitude to the fraction I generally keep quiet.

So it rewriting Lora so-so. 5/10