EVE General Discussion

The thread is about Incursions being nerfed instead of being fixed, as discussed in various other threads in these forums.
The thread is all about Incursions and how the super-rich come-up with excuses to ensure that there is no other competition to their super-richness.

Blah-blah someone getting rich boo hoo is all I read in these forums, all the time, whether it's missions, or mining, or PI or Incursions. The tears come from the very people who have earned their huge fortunes doing the very things they now want nerfed.

Unfortunately, as for CCP finding their way, they did a great job with the Crucible patch and most of us, me included, applauded them for that. Their actions now, or rather, in this case, lack of, puts them firmly back into a complacent loop as far as I am concerned. I do not always have to like everything I read regarding changes. I voice my concern even though the Incursion thing is not a direct hit on me, it does highlight the fact that the decisions which CCP sometimes make, often are ignorant of all previous information posted about such things by a large number of "regular" non Large Alliance players.

So please, stop trying to hijack this thread and try and stick to the topic.

Fix Incursions, stop actively supporting anything Darius and his crew have to say.

LP's instead of ISK,
Mothership sticking around a problem? Put a timer on it which, when it runs out, it's over, Incursion ends.
Randomise the Incursion timer to reduce site campers, if such exist.

There are other ways to fixing the ISK faucet than randomly nerfing it.

That's a lot to ask

I agree

Nerf high-sec Incursions rewards

FTFY

All hail Krissada! Death to the infidel incursion bears!

NCO's are a joke in Slep fleets. They clear everything out so fast it's really a case of blink and miss it.

It's the same with Mach fleets in OTA's. They shoot 3 targets and warp off.


Fix the blitz and you fix the Vanguards. Then adjust them to be in balance with the other sites for time+effort=reward.

Glad to see the CSM warned against instagibbing damage. It's not a fun mechanic in any way and offers no complexity or difficulty.

The Sansha mothership is a perfectly legitimate PVE war target.

Now is the time for all noobs and non-combatants eschewed by leet incursion runners to fit a T1 BS with 70+ percent resists and 90K+ EHP in armor and join the mothership takedown fleets.

You will have more fun doing that than posting fits in an incursion channel and being "judged". You will learn better fleet tactics than "RR Baitball" You will have FCs who are more experienced in killing things than grinding ISK.

The mothership is the biggest fattest red plus you will find in high sec, and if you never experienced being in a fleet before in the goal of taking down a capital, this is your chance.

Imagine a night club where they have a bouncer who judges how you look, and if you are not cool enough or your breasts not big enough, they say you can't get in . If you get in, you pay way too much for drinks and everybody is a snob.

Across the street is the club where you walk into the door, come as you are, and the prices are reasonable.

Edit: (in the basement is the Fight Club where they like to mess things up but if you want that join the goons).

CCP have got the right idea with this. What I find flabbergasting is they're removing a highsec ISK faucet without even touching the nullsec ISK faucet - I refer, of course, to tech moons.

However, there's nothing gamebreaking about tech moons really. Tech moons do have a risk/reward factor in that alliances battle for control over these moons; incursions, on the other hand, present no risk to the incursion-runners except possibly a fail logistics pilot ruining it for everyone.

Omfg hai pete <3

Fleets battle for the payout in incursions. Just because you're not shooting each other doesn't mean there's no competition.

I've seen fleets go out for hours and make pittance because they got rolled by shiny fleets, they'd have made more money by going off and doing missions in groups.