Intergalactic Summit

I am going to need a sorted index of Caldari pilots from most to least Caldari. Preferably before all of you masturbate over it.

Meritocracy must mean arguing over who has the most right to decide what is the most meritorious.

I am going to need to see how high on the Caldari list you are before I can take your opinion into consideration Verin.

A case of "O how the mighty have fallen" according to some people...

I am pretty well doing my job, that is - destroying enemies of the State. But in any way, I'd recommend you to avoid putting your nose into business that doesn't concern you. Or shall I remind that your corporation, unlike mine, isn't actually explicitly affiliated to Caldari State, and whether you are hostile or not to Caldari State could be still a separate discussion. We might start it if you insist putting your nose where it doesn't belong.

Or you might get it pinched by a door, you know.

Yes, and this I think will always be a point of difference between Kaalakiota, Wiyrkomi, and Lai Dai versus the other CEP corporations politically and culturally. For myself, the Greater Good of society is in ensuring the cohesion of that society and the scope of individual thought and action should always place social cohesion above personal desire or opinion.

I am an open homosexual, but would I advocate same sex marriage within Kaalakiota or the State? No. That is because I understand that marriage, as it exists between a man and woman, serves a vital role as an institution that upholds social cohesion through natural procreation and promotes traditional upbringing of children to adhere to the values expected of them as a citizen.

I am a freelance mercenary, but would I promote my behaviour as one within Kaalakiota or the State? No. That is because such behaviour, while I feel apt for the violent and vociferous lifestyle of my current hydrostatic predacity, diminishes quality of social discourse, and the exercise of sovereign individual violence is a threat to the authority of society to necessarily impose itself upon an individual.

I am a capsuleer, but would I advance the type of racial mixing found in SCC organizations within Kaalakiota or the State? No. That is because to me, race and culture are one and the same, as such to allow the mixing of the races is to allow the mixing of cultures which is nothing short of an attack on the cultural and racial foundations of Caldari society.

In contrast, the progressives in the Liberals when evaluating the importance between the individual and the Greater Good of society, judge that it is the individual that is more important. As demonstrated by your statement, to be Caldari is not a racial and cultural paradigm that creates strong social bonds between fellow citizens, instead it is an individual choice. To you and others like you, being Caldari is something one decides upon and not a matter of birth, where cultural values are inculcated by family, tradition, duty, loyalty, and individual submission and obligation to the Greater Good.

Such thinking, that race and cultural identity are nothing more than an individual choice is a pernicious notion that is ideologically and philosophically no different than what exists in the Federation. To permit and allow it, is a destruction of the Caldari way of life because it sets a precedent that the individual is more important than society.

However, permit and allow it the rest of the State does except for the bastion of Caldari values and principles in the Patriots; and just because the rest of the State does so will never mean I will ever accept such flawed notions that race and culture are simply personal choices to be adopted or abandoned on a whim.

You've just summarized a lot of the reasons I don't think I'll ever bring my mixed-blood Achur self back to the State.

Thanks, I guess.

... I don't think you could have said anything worse to me, Veik.



(I particularly love the way you indirectly lump the Achur uplift in with immigration as a matter of personal choice. Implying nasty things about mixed-blooded people is merely typical. Talking about the cultural indoctrination of the urban Achura into Caldari society like we were stealing your culture? That's kinda special.)

The truth, like winter, can be harsh Ms. Jenneth.

There exists no such thing as half a Caldari -- you either are born as one fully or not at all.

I could have offered you saccharine words instead as placation, but I believe you intelligent enough to realize that there are no non-Caldari (Civire/Deteis) in leadership of a Megacorporation and that the among the non-citizen and Gurista the ranks are filled with halfbreeds because the shame of their births is considered a social offense if not a legal one.

It's not my fault if some, among SuVee especially, can't help themselves but to stick it in an Achuran hole sans prophylactics without due consideration for the consequences of that action or that any child born will always be a reminder to others of their failure in their duty.

Truth?

As with other social constructs, cultural rules may or may not reflect an underlying reality. As with other social constructs, a culture's reality is dictated by those participating in it. Club rules are set by the membership, and consist of whatever the membership likes.

Only, the only true law is the one that can't be broken. The rest is a game of make-believe played on the largest possible scale.

Your definition of "Caldari" is acceptable for you, but you're a fool if you think it's the correct one. There isn't a correct one. The universe does not care or even have a set definition for what "Caldari" is.

The Winds don't care about you or me. They don't care about us, either.

That's truth, Veik. Like winter, it can be harsh.

The universe may not have a set definition for what Caldari is, but Caldari like myself do -- and it does not involve foreign blood or foreign values interceding upon my cultural and racial identity. You may question my beliefs, you may disagree with them, but that will not change my belief in them, nor cause me to deviate from the prosecution of my purpose as I swore it upon Sobaseki's Flag fifty years ago.

I'll take that any day over the kilometre wide and centimetre deep solipsism of, "How can your beliefs be real if your eyes that see the universe can't be real."

Solipsism is the belief that the self is all that can be known to exist. My system of belief is pretty much the diametric opposite (I don't believe in my own existence as a separate being).

... but the statement that "my belief is worthwhile because I believe it"? That's maybe a bit solipsistic.