EVE New Citizens Q&A

Correct.

Learning, getting better, and specializing is a process. It never ends.

And that does not mean that there is no point to to specializing or getting better. Merely that there is an endless amount of variation that can happen with the same mechanics that all players must operate under.

There are times when even I, with all my experience and skills and equipment, will wind up being ruined by a bunch of newbies in trash-fit ships.
And so I learn a new trick / tactic, get up, dust myself off, and start using it myself. Or even improve upon on it.



Hmmm... okay... one of two things are going on with that.

- Those players who recruited you could be attempting to con you. There are some groups that prey upon the oblivious. They lure them out to remote places and then blow them up. Purely for giggles.
Every EVE player will encounter something like this at some point in the game. Consider it our version of a "hazing ritual."

- You misunderstood what they were asking and did not follow all the directions (which does happen... even I will miss requests for me to get on Teamspeak or Ventrilo).



Well... that is what makes EVE unique. And why many of the players here will defend it so rabidly.

There are almost no other games out there that placed the onus of "safety" on the player so heavily... and makes it so integral to the rest of the game.


From a more pragmatic standpoint... there is also the economy of the game at large to consider.

Because economics goes hand-in-hand with warfare, there can never be a truly "safe" place for players to be. Ever.

If such a safe place existed, you can bet that every player that harvests and manufactures stuff (note: almost everything in the game can be produced by players) would move all their stuff to this "safe area" so no one would be able to intercept or interdict them.
They could endlessly produce and supply every enemy you have without fear of ever being stopped.

And because EVE is a full-time, multi-faceted PvP game... that would not do. There has to be a way to stop people from supplying someone you do not like.


Even the lowly miner, who knows nothing about your enemies, can be unknowingly supplying your arch enemy.



Realistically though... people are quite safe in the high-security systems in EVE. Simply follow the following guidelines:

- check the value of the stuff you are carrying in your ship and divide by 2 (see: half your cargo will drop as loot). Compare that versus how much it would cost to gank your ship (see the "suicide ganking" thread I linked above for more math).
If the potential value of your cargo is more than it costs to gank your ship...
--------- tank your ship more
--------- take a route that sees little traffic
--------- have a friend assist you (see: web-warp trick)

- Tank your ship as much as possible.
You want to have high damage resistances and HP. Repair units and Shield Boosters will not help much against high amounts of damage in a short time frame.

- Use different ships for different cargo.
If you have large volume, but low value... use an industrial.
If you have small volume, but high value... use a fast frigate.

- Stay away from Jita (this will solve most ganking issues right here).

- Have bookmarks over gates and outside stations that you can warp to in a pinch.

- Don't mouth off in local. Even if you REALLY feel the need to address something, don't. It is a trap. Someone is looking for targets and you probably don't want to be one.

- Don't announce your presence. That is the big difference between predators, survivors, and prey.
The first two don't say anything. They simply do what they do.

- If you want less competition, go further from the trade hubs (Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, Rens, Hek). The further you are, the less people there are. The less people there are, the more stuff you can loot / harvest and the less confrontation you will encounter.



None of these are silver bullets. But they will keep you safe for the most part.

But honestly... I would strap you and your buddies in frigates and send you into low-sec. Just go and swarm something, anything that stands still long enough.
That alone will make people respect you more.

I have just reviewed their financial documents endorsed by CCP CEO and independent auditor for CCP in 2015, the profit before taxes is exactly USD 18,935,222, I am not sure where you get the numbers you are posting...

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Look near the center of this page: "Profit / (Loss) before taxes":
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EDIT: I am not even talking about the enormous negative in 2014, forget about that

now i know why people kicked you.

please leave, it's obvious this game is not for you.

save us all the trouble.

thank you.

Don't presume everyone thinks like you. Other people can take decisions on their own if they like the game or not. You are insulting new players by saying "You can't think, you have no opinion, just listen to me, this game sucks..."

If I don't like a game, I simply leave it, without too much noise. You have two options here: try to get some help and adapt or keep doing what you do and gain nothing. If I were you I wouldn't be too concerned about other players "wasting their time" here. It's not your time anyway.

Best of luck

We'll there's yer problem.
You pretty much arbitrarily decided that you weren't going to be able to have any fun whatsoever.

Indeed. It's like deciding to play a game of Risk as a pacifist who refuses to invade another player's territory, or a game of Monopoly as a rabid communist who gives all their assets to the other players who are most in need. I mean that could be an interesting intellectual exercise and/or fun for some people at least for a while, but it runs completely counter to the core idea and mechanics of the game.

Eve is a sandbox yes, but one that is centered around conflict over goals and resources, as well exploding spaceships - so many exploding spaceships. I applaud you for trying to play it in a way of your own, but you really shouldn't be surprised when you fail at the game doing so. You certainly shouldn't come to the forums and "warn" other players away from trying the game. At best, you should warn them from trying to play the game in the unconventional way you decided to.

Well duly noted. Eve is not a fun game if you refuse to directly compete or at least accept that Eve is a competitive game where that competition might find you. All Eve players learn this fast, and prospective/new players should be told this early on. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Eve, just that Eve is wrong for you.

One final thing: if you "try" Eve and never have lost a ship like you say you are doing something wrong. If you want to give it another shot, do the opposite and instead of being fixated on never losing a ship, try to lose all your ships in new and interesting ways. After a week or two of that, if you still don't like Eve then you can honestly say the game really isn't for you.

You should quit this game. Eve would be better without you and it sounds like you feel you would be better without Eve. So no need for all of this drama, just leave.

The fact that you refuse to leave and just want to continue to post tears tells me that you don't want to leave you want to complain.

This section of the forums is full of helpful people that will bend over backwards to help someone generally looking to be helped. However we don't react kindly to whiners as no one is making you play the game. If you are interested ask for help. If you are not then leave. There is no game out there that is for everyone and this game probably isn't for most.

My interpretation of why Iria said that is that you are whining and crying about your experience in this game. You are complaining like it is everyone else's fault when you are the one that tried to jump into this complex game and not get help, come to false conclusions and then post a stream of tears. Who would want to play with someone like that? So myself and it seems Iria both agree with the other people that told you to leave.

Judging by the tone of your post I am going to guess that you are young, likely a teenager. This game has a much older playerbase. We take responsibility for our own actions here and we don't expect to be handed instant win buttons. It takes most people years to get good at this game even with help. If you are looking for a game that you can jump into and just pwn in 3 weeks Eve is not for you so just move on.

What research did you do that led you to the idea of setting up 17 corporations (across how many accounts?)

11 red people tried ganking your Mammoth being flown by a month-old trial character and you got away from them but they got CONCORDed? I'm looking forward to seeing that footage. Very interested.

I'm looking forward to seeing this footage you gathered. I have a few boxes of microwave popcorn ready to go.

This is going to be good!

Lets face it, you didn't do this research. You are trolling, poorly.

I can only assume you're so bad at the game that you now hold a grudge, or that you still play the game and are just messing about with a forum alt.

Either way you're rubbish at what you do..