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orca changes and fitting advice
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Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-10-31 08:59:18 UTC
hi i am one of the few who will combat fit my orcas for providing active boosts and combat suport to a mining fleet.

however i am at a loss as to how to fit it properly.

so i turn to you for advice and divergent thinking.

pleace post your future orca fits and lets theory craft a bit.

<3 malc
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#2 - 2016-10-31 22:13:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Do Little
You can play with fits on the test server. Even better, you can buy an Orca for 100 isk and try it out! This is what I came up with while answering the door for trick or treat:

[Orca, Orca]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II
Large Shield Extender II

Mining Foreman Burst II
Mining Foreman Burst II
Shield Command Burst II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager I
Large Ancillary Remote Shield Booster

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Drone Mining Augmentor II
Large Drone Mining Augmentor II


Hammerhead II x5
Mining Drone II x5

Shield Extension Charge x496
Navy Cap Booster 150 x50
Mining Laser Field Enhancement Charge x500
Mining Laser Optimization Charge x500
Shield Harmonizing Charge x499



Tank is 308,000 ehp - 331,500ehp with the extension burst, 322,800 ehp with the harmonizing burst - cycle plus reload is longer than burst duration with my skills so I couldn't try both. That's quite a bit less than my old bulkhead fit Orca but this one compensates with 515 dps offense with Hammerhead II or 1144.5M3/minute (+ travel time) harvest with mining drones!

This is a balanced fit with resources fairly evenly split between gank, tank and mining yield. It will be fun to see what others come up with.

Edit: I remembered what the 3rd utility high is for and went back to see if I could fit a remote shield booster. It all fits and the ship is cap stable as long as the cap booster charges hold out!
Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-11-01 11:08:17 UTC

Quote:
[Orca, Orca]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II
Large Shield Extender II

Mining Foreman Burst II
Mining Foreman Burst II
Shield Command Burst II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager I
Large Ancillary Remote Shield Booster

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Drone Mining Augmentor II
Large Drone Mining Augmentor II


Hammerhead II x5
Mining Drone II x5




hmm a more combat oriented version could swap the survey scanner for a Drone Navigation Computer II or Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

swap the highs to give room for more shield transfers and swap rigs for more tank and or drone dps
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#4 - 2016-11-01 14:20:56 UTC
My character on Singularity only has Drone rigging level 1 so CPU is a bit tight. You might be able to fit a second remote booster if trained to level 4 but not enough CPU with my current skills and 2 drone rigs. You are only allowed to fit 1 ancillary booster. As soon as you install a regular T2 booster, your capacitor disappears. You'll need modules or rigs to replenish it. - not sure that's practical.

If you don't intend to mine with the Orca, you can use the rig and mid slots for additional tank and replace the DCU witn a second DDA.

It depends where you're mining. In highsec where Concord is never more than 20 seconds away, I'll likely fit 3 Drone mining augmenter rigs for maximum yield. In lower security space, a battle Orca supporting Skiffs should be able to put up a good fight but, anyone who drops in on you should have scanned your fleet and know what they're getting into!
Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-11-01 14:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcorath Sacerdos
Do Little wrote:
My character on Singularity only has Drone rigging level 1 so CPU is a bit tight. You might be able to fit a second remote booster if trained to level 4 but not enough CPU with my current skills and 2 drone rigs. You are only allowed to fit 1 ancillary booster. As soon as you install a regular T2 booster, your capacitor disappears. You'll need modules or rigs to replenish it. - not sure that's practical.

If you don't intend to mine with the Orca, you can use the rig and mid slots for additional tank and replace the DCU witn a second DDA.

It depends where you're mining. In highsec where Concord is never more than 20 seconds away, I'll likely fit 3 Drone mining augmenter rigs for maximum yield. In lower security space, a battle Orca supporting Skiffs should be able to put up a good fight but, anyone who drops in on you should have scanned your fleet and know what they're getting into!


very true i live in wh so the risk of BIG ships is limited if you catch a bad brake and 10-20 t3 with hics and logi roll into you your dead anyway so..
Fuzzy TheBear
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-11-16 11:09:09 UTC
If you think that you can mine in an orca , fugget about it.
There's only enough bandwidth for 1 ice harvesting drone.
From the spec sheets drone will get one unit of ice on a 350 ( t1 ) or 300 (t2 ) second cycle.
So, even if you can have an ice drone out , it leaves you without fight drones ( warrior etc )
cause there's no bandwidth for it.
That makes the whole concept of mining with the orca a complete washout.




Malcorath Sacerdos
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-11-16 11:32:54 UTC
Fuzzy TheBear wrote:
If you think that you can mine in an orca , fugget about it.
There's only enough bandwidth for 1 ice harvesting drone.
From the spec sheets drone will get one unit of ice on a 350 ( t1 ) or 300 (t2 ) second cycle.
So, even if you can have an ice drone out , it leaves you without fight drones ( warrior etc )
cause there's no bandwidth for it.
That makes the whole concept of mining with the orca a complete washout.






cause ice mining is the only mining right ?