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Concord's tacit approval of Terrorism.
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Almah Akarith
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-10-30 19:52:20 UTC
More and more I am noticing the difficulty getting supplies from Amarr our main trade hub due to the actions of Minmatar terrorists who seem to work tirelessly to harass us. They are merely pirates, operating it seems without any concord intervention, despite being openly hostile to our civilization and our capsuleers.

While the Imperial Navy gets stretched thin to protect our capsuleers from these attacks, Concords response vessels sit silently, tacitly approving the terrorism that is taking place. No "Ushra'Kahn" or "Smile And Wave" ships should be allowed anywhere near our home worlds or our sacred monuments. These tribals need to be stopped, I call on anyone and everyone who believes that we should stand up to terrorism to enlist with the 24th Imperial Crusade and push these tribals all the way back to Hek where they belong.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#2 - 2016-10-30 20:39:35 UTC
Right, because groups like CODE are only comprised of Matari.... Don't get me wrong, Concord indeed supports terrorism, don't say we're the only ones who threaten your precious monuments however. Nice fear mongering by the way.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#3 - 2016-10-30 21:47:29 UTC
I believe Pilot Vess has posted the best response to the OP.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#4 - 2016-10-30 22:01:42 UTC
Thanks Nick! If it is such an issue (I'm not doubting it though I prefer Hek obviously) trying to push people into fighting us (hint: we aren't as active in Amarr as we are in the wz) wouldn't that defeat the purpose of joining to "defend your homeland?" I've been in multiple corporations flying with the TLF (as well as flying under private corporations allied with the TLF) and have yet to hear a CTA involving Amarr or highsec in general aside from one which wasn't aimed at civilians. Maybe I didn't notice them? I kinda doubt it. There were some AG groups around, I'd point people to them.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-10-31 01:27:36 UTC
Also, ever heard of instant undock bookmarks?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#6 - 2016-10-31 02:02:03 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Also, ever heard of instant undock bookmarks?

To be fair, the bigger risk is when you're docking. You can use the "instant dock" counterpart of the instant undock bookmark on an unusual approach and still have time to get instalocked and alpha-struck by a sniper Tornado if there's a small delay in the acceptance of your docking request.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-10-31 02:05:30 UTC
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Also, ever heard of instant undock bookmarks?

To be fair, the bigger risk is when you're docking. You can use the "instant dock" counterpart of the instant undock bookmark on an unusual approach and still have time to get instalocked and alpha-struck by a sniper Tornado if there's a small delay in the acceptance of your docking request.


Instant undocks too have a risk. Especially if the fellows know exactly where your undock is and camp there.

It will minimise the risk of getting ganked, not entirely eliminate it.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#8 - 2016-10-31 02:14:01 UTC
If were talking basic survival tactics, then simply not making yourself a juicy target would help too. Know how much it costs them to take you out and don't carry enough isk wise to make it a good trade.
Elanion
#9 - 2016-10-31 02:46:10 UTC
I opened the thread expecting a well-reasoned argument in opposition to CONCORD. This was a recruitment ad.

RIP YC111-115 • "The project discarded, its subjects forgotten... thence must the burden be shouldered."
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#10 - 2016-10-31 06:58:36 UTC
At least Aldrith Shutaq comes and shoots at us, I don't think I have ever even seen you. TL:DR; get gud.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#11 - 2016-10-31 08:03:55 UTC
Oh my, that's terrible news. I had no idea that malcontents could reach into trade hubs like that.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-10-31 08:17:30 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Oh my, that's terrible news. I had no idea that malcontents could reach into trade hubs like that.


CONCORD is full of shite and the navy police patrol fleet everywhere are terrible at their jobs. Come on. How can anyone not know that?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#13 - 2016-10-31 09:05:08 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Oh my, that's terrible news. I had no idea that malcontents could reach into trade hubs like that.


CONCORD is full of shite and the navy police patrol fleet everywhere are terrible at their jobs. Come on. How can anyone not know that?


Gasp !

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#14 - 2016-10-31 09:19:08 UTC
Elanion wrote:
I opened the thread expecting a well-reasoned argument in opposition to CONCORD


For that kind of thing, I recommend reading my excellent and widely praised guide to CONCORD.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-10-31 12:27:55 UTC
Please show us all on this anatomically correct doll where Ushra'Khan touched you.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2016-10-31 15:56:51 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Oh my, that's terrible news. I had no idea that malcontents could reach into trade hubs like that.


CONCORD is full of shite and the navy police patrol fleet everywhere are terrible at their jobs. Come on. How can anyone not know that?


Right? Everyone always acts like I'm an inscrutable spy when I turn up to meetings of the board at my construction project on Caldari Prime. "How did he get past the police? He must have special smuggling routes or a stealthed jumpship!"

No. I take a frigate and I'm off the gate by the time the Gallente Cop running traffic control has put down his doughnut to shout at me. I've cleared the exit gate LONG before the local patrols undock from their pleasure hubs.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-10-31 16:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
Really this whole thing is just absurd.

"Baseliner ships managed entirely by crew have a slower reaction time than biomechanically-enhanced, genetically-altered space freaks who can control 90% of the functions of a massive ship while being suspended semi-catatonically within a liquid solution in a state of complete focus!"

You don't say?

"That must mean they SUPPORT terrorism!"

I understand that you are a new pilot, Almah Akarith. So, please undock and get some experience in that ship of yours, it will round you out into a reasonable person. The more experience you get, the more you realize that we all know next to nothing in this world, estimating what we can, when we bother to put in the effort, behind a shroud of profound ignorance that we can only hope to lift just enough to peek out from under without ever fully removing, and that, as usual, that which is explainable by malice is almost invariably better explained by incompetence.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#18 - 2016-10-31 16:46:26 UTC
The problem of guerrilla TLF fighters in Amarr has been a problem since the start of the Empyrean Wars. There are only two responses to them: evasion or destruction. Make sure you know how to do both, and you will cause them more problems than they cause you. If you do not know how to do these, please contact myself or any other prominent Crusader for instructions on how to keep yourself and the system safe.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#19 - 2016-10-31 16:50:18 UTC
Is that actually a major problem Aldrith? I'm not denying it, I've just not heard of it being that big of a thing. Then again I'm also never in highsec, nevermind trade hubs so it's not exactly something I've viewed. Maybe it's just my operation times it isn't frequent?
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#20 - 2016-10-31 17:17:29 UTC
No more of a problem than it is for Jita, Rens or Dodixie. Wherever you have capsuleers congregating, you have conflict, and the Empyrean Wars reach into all of the trade hubs for that reason. Pilots must understand that they are never safe when engaged in the war, and the sooner they realize that the better.

I do find it unfortunate that our respective nations are required by CONCORD law to tolerate hostile pilots within their borders, but such is the way of things until the law changes. Until then, do your best to keep yourself safe and them in danger.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
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