Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The only purpose this servers is for me to go play other games.
Please remove it as it makes grinding even more painful than it needs to be.

Spam decline, get Dread Scarlet every 5 minutes, laugh and never run another mission ever again.....
Much as I'd like it myself, it's not a good idea.

Really the entire mission framework needs to be brutally ripped out and replaced with 'high sec anoms' which reward LP (based on the corps in the constellation, obviously NPC's still have bounties) for completing objectives inside the grid, of which there might be 5-10 objectives on a single grid. Completing 1 objective starts a random timer and each extra objective completed removes a set amount from the timer as well as normal tick down per minute. Site timer reaches zero, site despawns in some manner appropriate to the site (Ouchie self destruct, sudden massive undock & warp off just before self destruct to both give 10 seconds warning and look appropriate for an example of an appropriate despawn)
This then creates some competition for objectives as well as allowing some co-operation as well without hurting your income.
Then if you don't like the 'site' you take a gate and find a new one next door.

Getting rid of mission agents also would allow CCP to dramatically decrease the number of stations in High sec, which would give more importance to Citadels & High Sec Corps as a result.

So yeah, getting rid of missions all together is amazing, making them easier to spam, not amazing,

What other repeatable ways are there for me to get my amarr standing up ?

Because at the moment I'm grinding level 1s to get my amarr status to -1.9 because I want to do the Amarr epic arc. I've done all the non-repeatable standing boosts, they weren't enough. I'm doing combat missions because I know I couldn't stand grinding mining, trade or courier missions.

I don't want to tank my Minmatar standing, so I want to decline any mission against Minmatar. Which runs into the 4 hour gap.

SOE Epic Arc? Gives you +1 standing at the end to a faction of your choice without impact on the other faction. Repeatable every 3 months.
Data Centers?
Don't care and get an alt that either only accepts missons for you or with which you run missions together.
Run L1 missions in a station that has a storyline agent in the same station or at least same system? I can't tell if this is possible with Amarr (because I have always been a good guy with Amarr and it was never necessary) but it works fantastically with Gallente. Run L1 Distros for Poteque in Kor-Azor, gain Gallente and Minmatar standing as fast as a rocket climbs the skies.

It occours to me that every other game I've seen with similar standing mechanics has you gaining standings when you kill a ship/NPC belonging to an enemy of that faction. If Eve did the same, but with the standing gain for killing an enemy ship being much smaller than the standing loss from killing a ship of that faction, players who run missions for ages wouldn't find a large standings grind sitting between them and the content they want to do when they get sick of missions. Though it would remove the scenario of a player running missions for one faction, while located in an enemy factions space, suddenly finding out that they have reached shoot on sight with the local NPCs, which is a change I'm not sure about.

I'd probably set the exact values so that a character with 5 in Diplomacy and Social who runs every mission offered to them will hover around the -1.9, letting their corp/agent standings determine who they can run missions for.


Technically repeatable. But that would mean me waiting for 6 months, without doing anything to drop my amarr standing, before I can do the amarr epic arc. So not really a viable option.


The Data Center missions are mostly missions where you hand in pirate tags (you can loot these in missions and buy them on the market). Basically, it allows you to convert isk into standing. Remember, you can talk to each agent only once! The Data Centers can be found in:
Not repeatable.



An alt means paying for two accounts, as I'd need the alt and my main to be in the same fleet to share the standing boost and mission locations.


That's what I'm currently doing. It works, up until I get given multiple missions against minmatar in quick succession. Yesterday it was 4 of them within a single hour.

So I'm left with having to accept the standing loss from killing Minmatar NPCs, on top of the Gal/Minmatar standing loss for doing Amarr storyline missions.

Don't mistake the Empire Arcs with the SOE. The Sisters of EVE Epic Arc is a different thing.


Thank you for destroying mission running in NPC null sec and low sec if you are not part of a big, organized group and rather play recreationally. Your contribution to my death is very much welcomed as always with your "ideas".

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The delay is there for a multitude of reasons but the most important one is consequences to the choices you make.

Not buying into the the agent is to far away line, that's what jump clones are for.
Oh and don't give me some sad story about not having enough ISK to have multiple level 4 mission ships, based on the age of your character I am not buying into that either.

Other options are to blitz level 3's or even run some distribution missions or what they hell go run for a different NPC in the same faction that would still help your faction standings.

So just because you don't blitz missions for money you think it's ok, despite the fact that others clearly do and would abuse the **** out of a system with no decline penalties in order to only accept the one or two missions that are most profitable. It's a huge ask. It would utterly shatter mission income balance.

Why are you ignoring the effects on people who don't play exactly like you do? That's just an awful way to think about game design.

its there for a reason, but its true it leads to people playing other games. im often the same because i dont always have other jobs to do or cant be bothered with a particular tedious task on that particular day.

When missions get overhauled i hope there is a way to pick from a pool in the surrounding area and that you dont have to dock to accept missions. This would be compromise that should mitigate the OP's gripe.

Beyond that, you can decline missions more than once every 4 hours, you just take a standings hit. Not a big deal most of the time.

Here's a sneaky trick. Hang out in Manuq I believe it is for Amarr, fleet with all the newbies who want a hand, or just company. If you do the last mission with them also you get a share in the standings. You can get to +5 in a day if you get a good run of fleets.