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They won't stop at nerfing the Drake...

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Endeavour Starfleet
#1 - 2012-01-18 13:48:25 UTC
For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?

Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.

This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-18 13:50:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?

Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.

This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.


You're a moron...

That is all that needs to be said.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Ursula LeGuinn
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-18 13:51:52 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Your a moron...


Lol

I love it when people do this.

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Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-18 13:54:32 UTC
NERF?
I'd almost call that a buff.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-01-18 13:55:32 UTC
Ursula LeGuinn wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Your a moron...


Lol

I love it when people do this.


Me too... especially when i forgot the ' and the "e"

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#6 - 2012-01-18 13:57:54 UTC

HAM drake shooting 30 k with rage and dealing explosive damage against regressive imperialists checking in.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Endeavour Starfleet
#7 - 2012-01-18 13:59:00 UTC
Max Von Sydow wrote:
NERF?
I'd almost call that a buff.


Without the tank the drake is useless. A bit of extra range wont help when your expensive BC hull is instapopped by a small alpha fleet. Mise well fly a BS cruiser to get through the CTA and then go puke in some belt in frustration while an alliance leader counts this months moon goo production.
Lexmana
#8 - 2012-01-18 14:02:41 UTC
You mad?

Let me guess ... Drakes and Tengus is what you fly.
And that is how you like it.
Endeavour Starfleet
#9 - 2012-01-18 14:16:03 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
You mad?

Let me guess ... Drakes and Tengus is what you fly.
And that is how you like it.


I have not trained to fly a Tengu. Training that would mean months of training before I even purchased the hull itself. Because I don't halfass my training.

If you see a Drake owning you somewhere solo it is because the pilot spent a good chuck of a year training for it. Yet people will have you think they are the next best thing from a carrier or titan.

Yet there are many Tengu pilots out there mistakenly drolling over increased LP prices not realizing that the excuse to nerf the Drake is even easier with them.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#10 - 2012-01-18 14:18:39 UTC
Your playing EVE, everything gets nerfed in EVE eventually...

Especially now that TomB has rejoined the Reykjavik office, I bet he is denerfing his nerfbat as we speak...

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Tore Vest
#11 - 2012-01-18 14:32:28 UTC
CCP are good at nerfing..... Bear

No troll.

Endeavour Starfleet
#12 - 2012-01-18 14:32:48 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Your playing EVE, everything gets nerfed in EVE eventually...

Especially now that TomB has rejoined the Reykjavik office, I bet he is denerfing his nerfbat as we speak...


They get nerfed when fools don't speak up about it and go on pretending it won't happen. I am protesting and asking for it not to happen.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Guldan Age Stories
Nisuwa Cartel
#13 - 2012-01-18 14:39:12 UTC
Your argument is that its a nerf, its not.
shield hp didn't get talked about, nor did mid slots.
all that was discussed was 5%resit 5%ken damage to 5%ROF 10%velocity.
so rave's and cori's are already busted?
so ROF is worse than 5% to one damage type?

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Juliana Stinger
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-01-18 14:41:43 UTC
CSM = Blizzard
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#15 - 2012-01-18 15:57:25 UTC
Meh... Nerf Drake Lol

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Kingwood
Gone Krabbing
Solyaris Chtonium
#16 - 2012-01-18 16:01:06 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?

Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.

This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.


It's a change, not a nerf. If this is a troll it's a pretty good one. If it's not, you should probably take a deep breath, shut down your computer and take a long walk - you're investing far too much energy into an internet spaceship change.
Alara IonStorm
#17 - 2012-01-18 16:08:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
[Drake, Heavy]
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5


I removed the 25% Resist Bonus. It gets 80619 EHP, 450 DPS, Range past it's lock.

[Drake, HAM]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5


69933K EHP, 525 DPS, 30 KM Range.

Post buff Drake still has a pretty damn big Buffer Tank, Ok DPS and good range. With a very small fitting buff and it will be perfect. Get rid you the Canes double DPS Bonus and I might just call it Balance. =p
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2012-01-18 16:12:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?

Under this new return to the Incarna mindset in my opinion. It is not about fixing lower tier or higher class craft so they actually get used in fleet battles. It is about nuking anything that is actually useable for a solo pilot or small group. The Tengu will coming if you sit back and let this Drake nerf go on without protest.

This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.



Between my Drake and my Tengu......a Nighthawk or Vulture are REDUNDANT options.

That Drake has been too overpowered for FIVE years at least.

Time for it to get a zap.

And I love my Drake.

And why can I do Level IV's in a freaking cruiser (Strategic) for sakes????

The game ships are indeed imbalanced and this is a much welcome change.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Caldari Citizen20090217
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-01-18 16:16:13 UTC

Tbh 5% ROF on a drake is nice. No more annoying kinetic bonus, more DPS (700dps drake @ 30km ought to be easily doable), at the cost of some resists. Drake will still have a huge buffer, just no longer BS sized. If anything, after this 'nerf' there will be more whines from people claiming HML logi/drake fleets are overpowered due to their ability to spam heavy missiles from >200km.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
#20 - 2012-01-18 16:17:07 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:


... This is a "misery loves company" approach and should be protested against. Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.



I fly Gallente, all my ships come pre-nerfed or have already been nerfed to near uselessness.
Welcome to the club ...

Nick

PS - obligatory, "you mad?"

Nothing clever at this time.

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