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[news] Theology Council Issues Advisory Exhortation on Status of Clone
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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#201 - 2016-10-27 22:08:08 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
We outnumber the Caldari State subhumans 5 to 1 not including the Khanid Kingdom. And as Ayallah notes, they have a native vulnerability to our weapons.

What are we waiting for? They don't have a chance against us, and if our Empress were anything but a pathetic, moneygrubbing merchant she'd have ordered the invasion the moment after she was crowned.


With respects, my people have heard that tune before.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#202 - 2016-10-27 22:26:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Galente
Valerie Valate wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:
Val, they don't know more about 'me', they know more about 'the endocrine system', etc.

The soul is a little bit different. Bit more.. personal, and holistic.


What about your psychoanalyst ? Maybe they like shiny robes too ?


My psychoanalyst retired.

It had nothing to do with me.

At all.

Edit: After catching up with this doozy of a thread, if he read Ayallah's proposal, he'd probably off himself.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#203 - 2016-10-27 22:57:50 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
I like Caldari. Are you saying you don't like us?

Their ships look weird, just take a look at the drake for starters it's like piece of cardboard bent on both sides, that's so strange.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#204 - 2016-10-27 23:08:28 UTC
At least they've begun to learn how to design symmetrically.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#205 - 2016-10-27 23:12:31 UTC
Might I direct your attention to the Omen-class hull?

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#206 - 2016-10-27 23:17:00 UTC
Or the Aeon.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#207 - 2016-10-27 23:19:47 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Or the Aeon.


Lights!

Camera!

Action!

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#208 - 2016-10-28 01:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
The State has entire regions mobilised as military defence districts. Invading Citadel or The Forge would be like putting your head in a bee-hive. The Caldari Navy excels in fighting asymmetric battles against numerically superior foes and their tech edge is another force multiplier.

As for the lack of allies - how long do you think it would be before the Tribes crossed both the border with Amarr to take advantage of the reduced defensive forces and the border into State space to get some Amarr crusader blood? The State and the Republic would jump at the chance to unite against the Empire under these circumstances and if you think the Federation would be very far behind, I'd imagine you'd be mistaken.

Whilst there would certainly be some in the Federation who would rejoice to see the State broken, those exact same factions would be the ones most opposed to a strengthened Empire. In the end, the invasion of State space would blunt and break the best formations of the Amarrian Navy, expose it to flank attacks from the Republic and politically isolate the Empire by destroying it's only ally. It would paint the Amarrian Empire as a rabid dog on permanent notice for an opportunity to attack any and all.

I'm sure you know what would come next - the Clans would 'come for their people' and the Federation would 'end the despicable institution of slavery once and for all' and the sands of time would close over the oldest culture in New Eden forever.
You are correct about every point, maybe you forgot I began as a pilot flying Condors and hearing your stories about how the State won its freedom and Tovil-Toba. I did not say invasion of the State would be easy or I do not respect them in war. Especially a war for survival.

I have considered many things in this but now is not a good time to talk about them. I think you would see the reason in my argument when I make it. But another time.
Samira Kernher wrote:
The question is indeed not if. It is our duty to Reclaim all of God's creations. The question is "when", and "how". It could happen a decade from now, or it could be a thousand years from now. It could happen with all the force the Golden Fleet could bear, after a treaty expires or is broken, or through spiritual conquering and political domination regardless of the state the alliance is in.
It is important to consider the truth of this. Even those Amarrians that are uncomfortable with the idea. Consider also that other Nations are better Reclaimed in other ways or at other times. The Republic is a perfect example of being prime for cultural Reclaiming. The Amarrian Religion and its permutations that have evolved from mixing with Matari spiritualism are a very significant portion of the population in the Republic. Tribal Traditional practices are weaker than they have been since the revolt.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Aldrith, you should have more faith than that. The Alliance stands because it stands on its merits - we're allies because both of us bring something to the table and certainly not because we like each other.
Which is of course true. For this reason I believe it is the hope of some for the State to be as the Khanid.

Anyway, some other thread.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#209 - 2016-10-28 02:21:03 UTC
I would be overjoyed for my former brethren to join the Empire and faith. I hope to see that one day. However, that is significantly less likely to happen if we try to force the issue.

It would be criminally stupid to invade the State when the Gallente are like, right there.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#210 - 2016-10-28 06:02:34 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Remember that one time, when the Empire went, "Hey look at those Jove, they have a numerically inferior fleet with no allies, Reclaiming them will be really easy!"

Veikitamo remembers.


So you claim the Caldari Navy to be as powerful as the Jove Empire's battle-fleet?


No, I'm saying Amarrian Reclaimers seem to have this tendency to proclaim Deus Vult! Without considering there may be a proverbial cliff in front of them. With the Jove it was a failure to consider their technology and apparently with the Caldari it is a failure to consider the State military is designed to fight defensive battles against numerically superior opponents.

So the only outcome is as already outlined -- the Empire invades the State, gets stuck, and the Fed and Republic counter-invade.

I guess some Amarrians want a war vs the State, Fed, Republic and Drifters though.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#211 - 2016-10-28 14:33:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashlar Vellum
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
At least they've begun to learn how to design symmetrically.

Indeed, cultural exchange certainly bear fruit.

Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Might I direct your attention to the Omen-class hull?

Dynamic symmetry is essence of symmetry within life and pleasing for the viewer's eye.

Samira Kernher wrote:
Or the Aeon.

Aeon hull is a real beauty for every true and devoted servant of God, just saying.
The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#212 - 2016-10-29 11:44:17 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Please do not.

The Leopardess wrote:
This is great news I've taken vacation early to join my family to celebrate. No one questions the Theology Council. Except, apparently Aldrith Shutaq, against his own best interests, apparently?

I'm sorry, where did I question the Theology Council?


On having a soul, you stated "Nice to see that possibility may be validated." instead of "Nice to see the possibility is validated."



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Ascentior
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#213 - 2016-10-30 22:30:36 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
What a sad existence. Waiting for a post card from their former selves that just never would come.

"Having a blast, wish you were here, but you'll never get here, you empty husk of flesh paste."

What jerks they must've thought their original selves were.

It is not the nature of our former self that should hold our concern. Indeed, we all should be very considerate of what sort of current self we have become, and what it will take to be the future self that we would hope to be.

Admiral of PIE Inc., Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (See 'PIE Public' for recruitment)

Honorary Fabricator-General of the Imperial Navy

Chosen by God to serve the Empire.
Templar Thal Vadam
Dark Sefrim Six
Khimi Harar
#214 - 2016-10-31 16:20:21 UTC
Huh.....well isn't that swell
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#215 - 2016-10-31 22:10:49 UTC
The Leopardess wrote:

On having a soul, you stated "Nice to see that possibility may be validated." instead of "Nice to see the possibility is validated."

That is because the recommendation has not yet been recognized as Scriptural canon. The article clearly states: "The exhortation, an advisory judgment on the interpretation of Amarr scripture, adopts a newly unified position on the status of cloned human beings in the Amarr religion..." The important clause here is "advisory judgement on the interpretation of Amarr scripture", stating the Theology Council believes this to be the case and is awaiting for consensus from other parties.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#216 - 2016-11-01 20:12:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov Jr
To start a new era in New Eden.
Amarr Empire traditionally is necessary make a sacrifice. IdeaIdea
One large and five small sacrifice Lol

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