Intergalactic Summit

Numerically smallest military with no allies going against the largest one with a native EM hole?


Perhaps I should present my ideas another time regardless.

Remember that one time, when the Empire went, "Hey look at those Jove, they have a numerically inferior fleet with no allies, Reclaiming them will be really easy!"

Veikitamo remembers.

I feel very hesitant in reminding you of a fact that you have demonstrated ample command of. Numbers are often an illusion, it is effectively projected force that matters. My friend, your time out in null has blinded you to the fact that the Navies are NOT the same as capsuleer fleets. You can't do a match-up of even a fleet of capsuleer hulls and say you know how a WAR would go down between two baseliner navies.

The State has entire regions mobilised as military defence districts. Invading Citadel or The Forge would be like putting your head in a bee-hive. The Caldari Navy excels in fighting asymmetric battles against numerically superior foes and their tech edge is another force multiplier.

As for the lack of allies - how long do you think it would be before the Tribes crossed both the border with Amarr to take advantage of the reduced defensive forces and the border into State space to get some Amarr crusader blood? The State and the Republic would jump at the chance to unite against the Empire under these circumstances and if you think the Federation would be very far behind, I'd imagine you'd be mistaken.

Whilst there would certainly be some in the Federation who would rejoice to see the State broken, those exact same factions would be the ones most opposed to a strengthened Empire. In the end, the invasion of State space would blunt and break the best formations of the Amarrian Navy, expose it to flank attacks from the Republic and politically isolate the Empire by destroying it's only ally. It would paint the Amarrian Empire as a rabid dog on permanent notice for an opportunity to attack any and all.

I'm sure you know what would come next - the Clans would 'come for their people' and the Federation would 'end the despicable institution of slavery once and for all' and the sands of time would close over the oldest culture in New Eden forever.

If there will be same amount of preparation and thought put as last time then any opponent will become as powerful as the Jove regardless of their actual power.

The point is before bragging about anything, step back and reassess the situation first.

Arrogance precipitates a dizzying fall and all that.

"There will be neither compassion nor mercy;
Nor peace, nor solace
For those who bear witness to these Signs
And still do no believe.
---- Book of Reclaiming, 25:10

If you think the slavery cultists put any alliance before their demonic beliefs I wish you luck with that.

For all intelligent people the question is not "if" the slavery cultists will turn on the Caldari State but "when".

Aldrith, you should have more faith than that. The Alliance stands because it stands on its merits - we're allies because both of us bring something to the table and certainly not because we like each other.

Pilot Tuulinen might I trouble you for some links that could educate me about the religious and spiritual practices in the Caldari State. I must confess to not having as deep an understanding of their practices as I should.

If you wish not to share them in this thread as a distraction a personal email would be greatly appreciated. However I suspect I am not the only non-Caldari whom would benefit from a greater understanding of the religious and spiritual practices of the Caldari people.

The question is indeed not if. It is our duty to Reclaim all of God's creations. The question is "when", and "how". It could happen a decade from now, or it could be a thousand years from now. It could happen with all the force the Golden Fleet could bear, after a treaty expires or is broken, or through spiritual conquering and political domination regardless of the state the alliance is in. Both our nations know that and plan for that. As does every nation of even the smallest size. Military exercises, contingency plans, youth indoctrination, propaganda, and other cultural safeguards, that's all there to build up a nation and prepare it to counter threats to its existence or to expand its sphere of influence.

We could get into arguments about who's dad could beat up who, but that's really rather pointless when every side already knows all the facts we do and more and have already thought and rethought ways of countering them, ways the enemy might counter those counters, and so on. And that the fight may not even be a fight at all, and is happening at this very minute in the war of culture, diplomacy, and the market (you can boil all three down to "the market of ideas" I suppose. That's the term Pieter likes to use).

We outnumber the Caldari State subhumans 5 to 1 not including the Khanid Kingdom. And as Ayallah notes, they have a native vulnerability to our weapons.

What are we waiting for? They don't have a chance against us, and if our Empress were anything but a pathetic, moneygrubbing merchant she'd have ordered the invasion the moment after she was crowned.