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Drake changes from CSM minutes.

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Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-18 10:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Von Sydow
What do you think of the drake changes mentioned in the CSM meeting minutes.


"CCP is considering giving it a more offensive role like Raven or Caracal where it would lose the shield resistance bonus and the 5% Kinetic damage bonus instead gain a rate of fire and a missile velocity bonus."
Calistai Huranu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-18 10:24:35 UTC
HAM drakes will be the new standard.
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#3 - 2012-01-18 10:46:47 UTC
Calistai Huranu wrote:
HAM drakes will be the new standard.


It'll be just like 2007-2008 again. P
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#4 - 2012-01-18 11:09:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
Well I'm a Caldari pilot, and I loves me some drakes.
The change from resist to velocity makes a lot of sense-Puts them in line with the other missile boats, and puts there tank closer to the other T2 battle cruisers.
I think this would help push people in to using it for offence and using the Ferox for defence.
Now if they got rid of the Myrm's rep bonus for say hybrid damage and pushed its drones up to 100-125bandwith we would have use a solid set of tier 2's.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Calistai Huranu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-18 11:13:19 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Calistai Huranu wrote:
HAM drakes will be the new standard.


It'll be just like 2007-2008 again. P


But with more deeps, longer range, and quieter lowsec.
Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-18 11:30:55 UTC
cool stuff in my book. but there will be a lot of younger players cursing ccp for that.
Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-18 11:32:42 UTC
I wonder what kind of tank the drake could get without the resist bonus.
Would it still be viable as a lvl 4 missioner?
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#8 - 2012-01-18 11:34:32 UTC
Max Von Sydow wrote:
I wonder what kind of tank the drake could get without the resist bonus.
Would it still be viable as a lvl 4 missioner?


Probly be fine with an AB and nanos, as to kite the BS's well you kill the BC's and down.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#9 - 2012-01-18 11:57:11 UTC
Make drake with 5% cap bonus to lazors and 5% kinetic dmg bonus to smartbombs. Disco-lazor drakes ftw!!!
vorneus
Hub2
#10 - 2012-01-18 13:12:09 UTC
I'm not too fussed about the changes - I don't like flying Drakes and probably still won't after this change (if it goes through).

My main concern is with how it will affect the viability of other ships with a missile velocity bonus like the Cerb, and to a lesser extent the Sacrilege. How it might tread on the Cerb's toes is obvious, what with the current state of on-grid warping/probing and the improved range it would have. The Sac issue is less obvious, as it's rarely a go-to ship for HAMs at the moment anyway, but will be even less so following a change like this.

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.

Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-18 13:15:05 UTC
I hate flying Drakes (inb4 -A- & Drake joke)
JunkRaider
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-01-18 15:09:13 UTC
I call BS. Leave it as it is. Most of the peeps that complain about it don't even use it.
Munio J Makeanen
United Starbase Systems
#13 - 2012-01-18 15:11:15 UTC
Disagree
Drake is one of the only viable ships in the Caldari Line up

If they do not change the stupid em resist hole across the board it is a very bad decision.

If they do this Nerf the dam Hurricane as well
Liam Mirren
#14 - 2012-01-18 15:16:20 UTC
Hurricane is also in need of a nerf but the Drake getting rebalanced is a necessity and actually, it's not really a nerf anyway.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Brother Galladrinal
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-18 15:30:47 UTC
More damage on a Drake? Where do I sign?!!! Big smile
Goose99
#16 - 2012-01-18 15:34:00 UTC
Liam Mirren wrote:
Hurricane is also in need of a nerf but the Drake getting rebalanced is a necessity and actually, it's not really a nerf anyway.


Winmatar shall never be nerfedTwisted
SpaceSquirrels
#17 - 2012-01-18 16:16:02 UTC
WHAT THE **** WHAT AM I GOING TO SEMI AFK LVL 3's or SLEEP LVL 4's IN NOW!!! NOT THE DRAKE!!!


WHY!!!
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#18 - 2012-01-18 16:35:43 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
WHAT THE **** WHAT AM I GOING TO SEMI AFK LVL 3's or SLEEP LVL 4's IN NOW!!! NOT THE DRAKE!!!


WHY!!!


its ok space squirrels you can still orbit at 150 of a large collidable object and pass out.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Theodemir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-01-18 16:40:01 UTC
I do hope these changes go through, buffed HAM Drakes has great appeal. Smile
Vile Coyote
Deep Space Legacy
#20 - 2012-01-18 17:02:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Vile Coyote
Please, no.

I think the Drake is overrused for a reason : people need a tanky BC. Because they lack skills, because they can't afford or fly something better, because they want to try more difficult pve (WH etc) or try PVP and actually stay on the field long enough to learn something.

Give players more options for these roles, and options that do not require spending billions or training for centuries. Or leave the Drake as it is. Want a DPS BC ? Fly a cane, it's what it's made for.

Missile velocity bonus REALLY ? Does this game needs another bonus that will go to waste if you have to fit HMs ? At the very least, make HAMs worth using if you're forcing us to. In their current state they suck hard, the added DPS over HMs does not nearly justify their many drawbacks.

The good point is that if this goes live I'll save a lot of money... flying caracals instead of that lame amputee draek.

Edit : just read the report. While I agree a minor nerf is in order, I don't see a need for turning it into another useless ham platform.
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