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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#1 - 2016-08-15 23:15:50 UTC  |  Edited by: elitatwo
Last weekend (Sat 13th) I installed Linux Mint 18 which is based on Ubuntu 16.4 LTS with Kernel 4.4 and so on.

A few minutes ago I wanted to check out SiSi and nada. The client logs on and drops to 0.001 frames per second and after five minutes on the character selection screen, I am looking at a picture and can do zero.

I set my settings to very, very, very low after 23 minutes the client recognizes but it doesn't do squat.

Make fix EVE and don't forget to put 100m isk into my wallet per day I cannot log on.


Edit:

System is still as follows:

Gigabty EP45T-UD3P (modbios)
Intel Core2 Quad Q9600 @2666MHz
2x OCZ RAM @ 7/7/7/25 @1066MHz
AMD Radeon HD6850 OC Edition 1GB
BeQuiet StraightPower Pro 600W

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Scout Sethe
korpa pYco
#2 - 2016-08-18 13:14:30 UTC
Hmm man, you might hit the nail. since I started playing EVE again I experience strange stop-ups of client (picture stays still, audio still plays, I can activate modules, game apparently runs, just video doesn't update anymore, even ALT-F4 which closes the client doesn't redraw display). It might very well be the same issue, for me it happens 2-3 times per few-hour session, sometimes minutes into game, sometimes hours. Running LM 18 Mate with RX480 and ofi AMDGPU PRO drivers (there was an update few days ago, but it didn't fix it for me). Issue seems to be EVE related (or wine related), it never happened to me while playing (native client) Albion Online for hours...

Which drivers do you use?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#3 - 2016-08-18 13:37:15 UTC
Hey, sorry for the late update but what I found out was that AMD doesn't support kernel 4 yet and retired all support of older models as of kernel 4.

So I had to go back to Mint 17.3 Rosa and kernel 3.19 to get the last crimson radeon drivers. I did that 2 days ago and am able to log in again.

I guess you need to wait a little until AMD brings a driver that does support kernel 4 so you can use the RX 480 (btw kudos man, I hear good things).

Since AMD is really terrible, I have put my eyes on a NVIDIA GTX 950.


Does anyone have experience with that one?

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Scout Sethe
korpa pYco
#4 - 2016-08-19 08:13:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Scout Sethe
Yeah, I was using fglrx drives before when having r9 280x. But I believe R480x isn't supported by old driver anymore (and newer linux kernel isn't supported by fglrx which is not updated anymore as AMD wants to obsolete it and continue with AMDGPU PRO series of driver). I am currently waiting for next lockup to understand if issue is same (0 FPS), and testing kernel 4.7 + mesa drivers. If there are any findings, i'll update thread for future reference. Good luck to you!
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2016-08-19 10:43:39 UTC  |  Edited by: elitatwo
Hey, thanks a lot mate!

And for the other curious, I was able to log on SiSi when I was on Mint Sarah. Thing was, the framebuffer driver aka software rendering was taking over in drawing the client.
In my case parts of amdgpu (until I rebooted, don't ask me why though) and xorg.video-ati.

With 7 minutes waiting time to get to the character selection screen, I was able to press ESC and look into the settings.

Now here was a surprise, the EVE client now showed a NVIDIA 8800GT in the video card selector (defaults to what you have) instead of my HD Radeon.

I do like to break stuff and just by looking, I can possibly even reverse-engineer the client from copying the behavior.

Anyhow that virtual NVIDIA card was now drawing the client with all the beauty of dx11 even - what a sight. But don't get too excited yet, it was software rendering and wineHQ is still working on it.

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Ravow
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-08-21 04:50:23 UTC
AMD dropped Catalyst/Crimson support on Linux as they are crappier than open-source drivers.

You got two choice:
Use Opensource drivers (latest git libdrm, git llvm, git mesa) and kernel 4.7, you will get it to work find and you can get is really good using native D3D9 support (Gallium nine) and get better fps(immediate) -or- power consumption(intermediate 1) than using any Nvidia card or AMD card with blob.

Use AMDGPU-pro (the actual new Linux driver from AMD, if blob stuff matter) But It have only stable support for GCN 1.2 card. GCN 1.1 card are still testing but are fine and GCN 1.0 are totally still experimental. it kind of began to work last week and still, with MESA and not the blob part. *Might* be part of kernel 4.9.
Galinius Valgani
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-10-24 08:08:11 UTC
Got a cheap mobile working/school device HP 15-ba010ng and wanted to try...does Eve even start.

Evelauncher Updating and Login works fine...but then the game simply does not start.

I Use Mint Mate 18 and updated the Kernel to 4.8.2 but still no proper graphics.
Does anyone have any further inside/website where to look which AMD APU are supported from which Kernel?

I do know now I have a AMD E2-7110 but did not find a proper site to check for any Graphics setting.
Tetractys
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#8 - 2016-10-25 11:11:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tetractys
I highly suggest having a NVIDIA Card (CCP use them and only them i think - they have too AMD cards but only for compatibility testing).
I have the Mint 18 Sarah too with and I use NVIDIA GTX980. Result: Perfect.
Of course, is not needed to have a 980 model. My "old" GTX670 worked perfectly. You can find those x70 models on eBay easily at a good price.
NB: 670 means: "6" is relative to the period of production and "70" is the model. The lesser the first digit the older the card.
Models go from a "slower" 30 to the faster 80.
These data are generic but a good point of start for buying a new card or a used (pref. well-used) one.
Cheers
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2016-10-25 17:07:22 UTC
Tetractys wrote:
I highly suggest to have a NVIDIA Card (CCP use them and only them i think - they have too AMD cards but only for compatibility testing).
I have the Mint 18 Sarah too with and i use NVIDIA GTX950. Result: Perfect.
Of course is not needed to have a 950 model. My "old" GTX670 worked perfectly. You can find those x70 models on ebay easily at a good price.
NB: 670 means: "6" is relative to the period of production and "70" is the model. The lesser the first digit the older the card.
Models goes from a "slower" 30 to the faster 80.
These data are generic but a good point of start for buying a new card or a used (pref. well used) one.
Cheers


Cheers, mate!

I was looking forever how NVIDIA does their naming naming thing. Exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks so much!!

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Galinius Valgani
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-10-26 06:16:25 UTC
I did not want to give up so early.
Little forum search showed that installing wine may fix it...and it does.
Would be awesome if the launcher propagated it's dependencies better, but I am happy now.

You may play Eve on a low budget maschine without proprietary drivers.
AMD is not that bad. :D