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Small Ancillary Armor Repairer needs some change.
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Stjarna Vattenodla
Rubbish
#1 - 2016-10-25 07:30:47 UTC
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer.

It's so super efficient as compared with another tanking modules that can be replaced.

Its capacitor usage is very affordable, and momentary repairing amount is also adorable.

At least I can use all 8 nanite in most situation.

(Unless I got neuted by Tristan with 3 neutralizer or etc)


That gives EHP equals 400mm Armor Plates, with no speed penalty.

Auxiliary Nano Pump rigs have no speed penalty too in contrast with Trimark or Resist Rigs.

And its CPU·Powergrid usage is also very small. only 5 / 5.


So... because of its super, unequaled efficiency, more and more frigates start to use it,

But it has no BPO, no LP store exchange...

So it costs over 5M isk now and its cost is getting higher.


What's CCP's stance? Wanna say this module is designed to be super efficient, and rare like Faction or Deadspace modules?

If that's not, it's time to make some change.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-10-25 07:35:25 UTC
No BPO?

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Stjarna Vattenodla
Rubbish
#3 - 2016-10-25 07:37:17 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
No BPO?


Yes it has no BPO.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-10-25 07:41:21 UTC
Stjarna Vattenodla wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
No BPO?


Yes it has no BPO.

Thanks.

i never loot rat wrecks. I'm going to have to start.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-10-25 07:46:13 UTC
SAARs are produced of BPCs, dropping from data sites. They used to cost 200-500k for years and are the standard for most armor frigs. Then CCP removed the BPCs from relics, and as nobody bothers to run data sites, the price went through the roof.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Stjarna Vattenodla
Rubbish
#6 - 2016-10-25 08:00:16 UTC
Does CCP have any plan for this?
Galinius Valgani
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-10-25 08:07:59 UTC
Why should they. I think they are more than happy if people start to fly data sites again.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#8 - 2016-10-25 08:12:59 UTC
Someone, a very astute trader, has made a lot of isk on this module. The drop rates come from rats alone and the drop rate is very small as it is a frigate module. It has a very small footprint in PVE farmability and a very LARGE footprint in PvP usability. Unlike the ancillary shield booster which drops more, is farmed more and is available to be a medium variant on most ships to be useful it makes it a cruiser sized PVE farm. This means noone farms it and makes it available to be manipulated on the market.

It is the most effective pvp module and with the advent of the alpha clones is the supreme frigate sized module for armor repping that is DEMANDED in pvp. Without one one sucks in frigate pvp entirely.

The only thing to reduce the price of said module is make larger bpc drops available per drop or have a higher drop rate. That is unless CCP wants to make this another high priced frigate pvp module and keep it there. But whoever it is that is trading in them has made large isk in the last months as the spike was a long time ago.

Increasing drop rates for the bpcs or increasing run amounts to 5 or 10 per bpcs will reduce the price back to what it should be. But... more people farming them would also help. So... find where they are dropped and farm them for the price.Twisted

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Cristl
#9 - 2016-10-25 14:27:02 UTC
It's pretty weird that small ones cost about 50 times as much as large...

I'd say data and relic sites could use a balance pass.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-10-25 14:29:11 UTC
Lol time to make and start selling them the. Hoarded up blueprints when they were east to find!

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2016-10-25 14:40:32 UTC
A very powerful module has a very high (well... relatively) price, and you have a problem with this? Why?!?
Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2016-10-25 15:40:17 UTC
Stjarna Vattenodla wrote:
It's so super efficient

*As long as you don't run out of charges and need to reload....

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-10-25 15:44:11 UTC
Meh. Think I'd just wait and see what a T3D nerf does to demand vOv.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Stjarna Vattenodla
Rubbish
#14 - 2016-10-25 16:23:00 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Stjarna Vattenodla wrote:
It's so super efficient

*As long as you don't run out of charges and need to reload....


Have you used this module?
Stjarna Vattenodla
Rubbish
#15 - 2016-10-25 16:26:14 UTC
Well at least you're thinking that this irreplaceable module's existence and rarity is intended and has no problem at all.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#16 - 2016-10-25 16:31:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Paranoid Loyd
#17 - 2016-10-25 17:11:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Stjarna Vattenodla wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Stjarna Vattenodla wrote:
It's so super efficient

*As long as you don't run out of charges and need to reload....


Have you used this module?


Yes I have, and having a 60 second reload is relevant to the discussion of how "super efficient" it is. You completely ignored that and I felt it was relevant to point out. I will concede that it is rare this factor comes into play in most situations you put yourself in but it is a stat that should not be completely ignored if you are trying to be the least bit objective when presenting your argument.

As to your "problem" of availability, the answer seems simple, if you think they are too expensive, run data sites and get your own BPCs. Alternatively start putting up buy contracts for the BPCs and hope there are idiots that don't realize their value. This is not something that CCP needs to fix.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-10-25 17:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Alternatively starting putting up buy contracts for the BPCs and hope there are idiots that don't realize their value. This is not something that CCP needs to fix.


You can't buy-contract BPCs. You just end up with a contract asking for a BPO. It would be nice if they would add a way to define the parameters and make it possible, though.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Paranoid Loyd
#19 - 2016-10-25 17:41:24 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Alternatively starting putting up buy contracts for the BPCs and hope there are idiots that don't realize their value. This is not something that CCP needs to fix.


You can't buy-contract BPCs. You just end up with a contract asking for a BPO. It would be nice if they would add a way to define the parameters and make it possible, though.

TY for the correction, at least now we have something that may actually be worth talking about fixing.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#20 - 2016-10-25 19:55:16 UTC
Stjarna Vattenodla wrote:
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer.

It's so super efficient as compared with another tanking modules that can be replaced.

Its capacitor usage is very affordable, and momentary repairing amount is also adorable.

At least I can use all 8 nanite in most situation.

(Unless I got neuted by Tristan with 3 neutralizer or etc)




Thought u were writing a song.
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