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Returning player with a few questions...
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Sevyc
Magnetar LLC
#21 - 2016-10-12 13:21:21 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
If you have the techniques for avoiding gate camps in Null, then you are GOLD for avoiding them in LS. The camps are generally much smaller and the absence of bubbles means you are pretty safe with an align under 2 seconds, or using the cloak mwd trick, or just cloak and warp. The standard rule about not warping directly gate-to-gate still applies as they can still try to get you with a smart bomb.


Well, I used to be pretty good at them, but I am definitely out of practice. Also, I'm not sure how much of the mechanics of it all may have changed since I've been gone.

In general, my understand of the best way to get out of a camped in-gate in a covops is to pick a direction away from anything that might bust my cloak, or tackle me. Start moving in that direction, engage my covops cloak and then my MWD. After that, make some turns in random direction to hopefully avoid anyone in a ceptor that might be burning towards me, and once clear, warp out. Does that sound okay, or is there something I can be doing better?
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#22 - 2016-10-12 18:45:33 UTC
Sevyc wrote:


Well, I used to be pretty good at them, but I am definitely out of practice. Also, I'm not sure how much of the mechanics of it all may have changed since I've been gone.

In general, my understand of the best way to get out of a camped in-gate in a covops is to pick a direction away from anything that might bust my cloak, or tackle me. Start moving in that direction, engage my covops cloak and then my MWD. After that, make some turns in random direction to hopefully avoid anyone in a ceptor that might be burning towards me, and once clear, warp out. Does that sound okay, or is there something I can be doing better?


That is only if you are using an improved or prototype cloak because they cannot warp cloaked, so then follow that procedure to the letter. Also, keep in mind "getting clear" depends on the ships involved. As some have range bonuses to their point now, so keep that in mind(Arazu gets a 20% range bonus per skill level), and they can move pretty fast too. When you decloak you will have to accelerate from a very slow speed back to warp velocity.

If you are in a covops ship you can warp cloaked, so unless someone is literally on top of you, there is no need to evade like that.

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Sevyc
Magnetar LLC
#23 - 2016-10-12 23:53:30 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Sevyc wrote:


Well, I used to be pretty good at them, but I am definitely out of practice. Also, I'm not sure how much of the mechanics of it all may have changed since I've been gone.

In general, my understand of the best way to get out of a camped in-gate in a covops is to pick a direction away from anything that might bust my cloak, or tackle me. Start moving in that direction, engage my covops cloak and then my MWD. After that, make some turns in random direction to hopefully avoid anyone in a ceptor that might be burning towards me, and once clear, warp out. Does that sound okay, or is there something I can be doing better?


That is only if you are using an improved or prototype cloak because they cannot warp cloaked, so then follow that procedure to the letter. Also, keep in mind "getting clear" depends on the ships involved. As some have range bonuses to their point now, so keep that in mind(Arazu gets a 20% range bonus per skill level), and they can move pretty fast too. When you decloak you will have to accelerate from a very slow speed back to warp velocity.

If you are in a covops ship you can warp cloaked, so unless someone is literally on top of you, there is no need to evade like that.


So I can just hit warp to my destination and engage the cloak as I start to move? (and avoid being insta-locked?)
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#24 - 2016-10-13 02:36:26 UTC
Well, the rule of not warping directly between gates is still in effect. But unless they insta-lock you, and there is always a chance of that, then you should be good as long as you time the warp and cloak right.

The technique a camper will use when you arrive on scene is to start spam ctrl-clicking the blank spot at the top of their overview waiting for you to decloak. Lag and just timing the cloak wrong can still get you killed. Also, the relative position to the servers can help them to get a lock. But generally, in a covops ship, you're as safe as it gets. There is no way to eliminate risk in EvE, just ways to mitigate it.

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Sevyc
Magnetar LLC
#25 - 2016-10-13 09:08:31 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Well, the rule of not warping directly between gates is still in effect. But unless they insta-lock you, and there is always a chance of that, then you should be good as long as you time the warp and cloak right.

The technique a camper will use when you arrive on scene is to start spam ctrl-clicking the blank spot at the top of their overview waiting for you to decloak. Lag and just timing the cloak wrong can still get you killed. Also, the relative position to the servers can help them to get a lock. But generally, in a covops ship, you're as safe as it gets. There is no way to eliminate risk in EvE, just ways to mitigate it.


Thank you for the help and advice!
Angus Therm0pyle
X-Fire
#26 - 2016-10-23 06:44:51 UTC
This was a useful post i have just returned to EVE after long break and was wondering the same.
I used to run allot level 4's too Ships all look very different
Activated one of my accounts so far Been familiarising myself with things again had fly about in Cov Ops collected some skills and a ship.

I will fit out a T1 ship to do a level 3 :) Used to use a Drake i think for a lev 3 skilled in all 4 Races

Thanks for info in here as were to begin again Big smile
Harok Chipri
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2016-10-24 09:42:33 UTC
Go providence, rat, mine explore, see what you want to do and you can still go elsewhere afterwards, but you will have to join an alliance then... Just do not get kos on this list
Angus Therm0pyle
X-Fire
#28 - 2016-10-24 11:02:04 UTC
Harok Chipri wrote:
Go providence, rat, mine explore, see what you want to do and you can still go elsewhere afterwards, but you will have to join an alliance then... Just do not get kos on this list


Thanks for the reply will have a look down there currently in Lonetrek were all my stuff is. I Will start my own thread so i do not hijack this one :)
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