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[IKAME] Directive Alpha Gamma 12 and the Society
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#121 - 2016-10-21 08:28:09 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
What if I told you, that the Inner Circle, isn't actually a circle ?

It's a nonagon.


Could be a square or a pentagon for all we know.

Polygon, minmatar. It is called polygon when you don't know number of vertices.

Gah, I should demand payment for educating tribals.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Mark Neismith
Singular Inc.
#122 - 2016-10-21 08:46:01 UTC
Matias Kurovassi wrote:
I am not assigning any nobility to the actions of the SSoE as regards their proliferation of clone technology. In fact, what they did could be considered positively underhanded. The Jove Empire and now its successor, the Society, are the only CONCORD member not obligated to share their technology with others, so if this new cloning tech has Jovian roots then what the Sisters did was the best way to prevent the Society from blocking its potential widespread use.


This is a valid point.

Makes me think - what if this new cloning technology is designed to prevent accidents like the one with the former Amarr Empress Jamyl being possessed by the Other?

And by bypassing CONCORD and the Society in the process - does that means that it is too late for those organizations?
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2016-10-21 08:53:47 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
What if I told you, that the Inner Circle, isn't actually a circle ?

It's a nonagon.


Could be a square or a pentagon for all we know.

Polygon, minmatar. It is called polygon when you don't know number of vertices.

Gah, I should demand payment for educating tribals.


You are an idiot. I didn't bring out four sides or five sides out of nowhere. Recall again exactly how many factions form the membership of the CONCORD Inner Circle.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#124 - 2016-10-21 08:55:01 UTC
By other what?

And excuse me, but these ideas of possession sound like some sort of tinfoilhattery.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#125 - 2016-10-21 08:57:50 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

You are an idiot.

I have asked you already to not put your mental qualities on me.

I think I'll better save my time and won't waste it on educating tribals which display lack of capacity to learn.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#126 - 2016-10-21 13:45:00 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
I didn't bring out four sides or five sides out of nowhere. Recall again exactly how many factions form the membership of the CONCORD Inner Circle.


5 signatory members, consisting of the Great Powers plus the Minmatar.

4 CONCORD appointees in addition to those 5.

Makes 9.

I think the idea is that the 4 CONCORD members can be overruled on something by the 5 signatory members, but it takes unanimity from those signatory members to do that kind of thing.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#127 - 2016-10-21 14:05:49 UTC
So with the Jove functionally missing, it's a stalemate at best?
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#128 - 2016-10-21 17:55:14 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
So with the Jove functionally missing, it's a stalemate at best?

Not quite, the Society of Concious Thought has officially taken the Jove Empire's seat. It's early days but they may come out as a sort of tie breaker actor. Or perhaps something more disruptive. Or even perhaps supporters of the status quo, maintaining the current stalemate between the big four.

All we can do is wait and see, but the potential for all kinds of things is there with a now active fifth player.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#129 - 2016-10-22 17:16:51 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
I didn't bring out four sides or five sides out of nowhere. Recall again exactly how many factions form the membership of the CONCORD Inner Circle.


5 signatory members, consisting of the Great Powers plus the Minmatar.

4 CONCORD appointees in addition to those 5.

Makes 9.

I think the idea is that the 4 CONCORD members can be overruled on something by the 5 signatory members, but it takes unanimity from those signatory members to do that kind of thing.


So, a nonagon then.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#130 - 2016-10-23 06:38:27 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
I didn't bring out four sides or five sides out of nowhere. Recall again exactly how many factions form the membership of the CONCORD Inner Circle.


5 signatory members, consisting of the Great Powers plus the Minmatar.

4 CONCORD appointees in addition to those 5.

Makes 9.

I think the idea is that the 4 CONCORD members can be overruled on something by the 5 signatory members, but it takes unanimity from those signatory members to do that kind of thing.


So, a nonagon then.


Well, yes, like I said. A Nonagon.

I'd expect the seating arrangement to be something like Signatory, Concord, Signatory, Concord, since well, if the Gallente and Caldari members were next to each other, I'd expect the Gallente to fondle the Caldari one's thigh, which would be Awkward, around a decagonal table, with the CONCORD five-pointed star emblazoned on it, with the signatories sitting in the seats at the points of the star, and the concord members in the seats in the gaps between the points.

The fifth gap between points of the stars, is the one of course, that faces the door. There has to be a door, after all.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#131 - 2016-10-23 06:53:57 UTC
I would tell you what kind of table they have, but I looked it up. Directive Rho Omicron Phi Chai Mate 69 is the CONCORD Directive of Table Sizes and Shapes. It is 100% completely and totally classified. Go try and look it up for yourselves. You can't read it.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#132 - 2016-10-24 02:19:22 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
I would tell you what kind of table they have, but I looked it up. Directive Rho Omicron Phi Chai Mate 69 is the CONCORD Directive of Table Sizes and Shapes. It is 100% completely and totally classified. Go try and look it up for yourselves. You can't read it.


CONCORD are a bunch of twats.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#133 - 2016-10-24 02:35:40 UTC
Well, I can't very well argue with that.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#134 - 2016-10-29 01:44:19 UTC
Maker! What a difference a day makes!

While there's no progress on the SoCT front, the (admittedly unverified) information from Taya Akira is suggestive. While much of it is as we've suspected or known (particularly the Drifter use of Jove corpses as biomass stock), the mention of pairing presumably Sleeper cybernetics with artificial intelligence is highly suggestive.

Given CONCORD dictates on AI useage, this may very well be why CONCORD was sidestepped.

Expect more on this shortly.

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