Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ratpack
You have every right to your opinions, my dear friend! No matter how wrong they are.

Food for thought:

Either

A) There's a simple fix and CCP has not implemented it out of sheer incompetency in the last 6+ years that I've been playing.

Or

B) it's a complex issue requiring both game design and coding-time to fix for very minor improvements and CCP has not seen it worthwhile to spend resources on it.

Or

C) CCP likes the gameplay-value it brings and has not seen it as a problem that needs fixing.

A) I'm not your friend nor will I ever be.
B) You really should stop insulting other people
C) If the reason for AFK-cloaking was due to player-numbers, there is plenty of better ways CCP could have increased that. AFK-cloaking is a GAME-mechanic, not a business-mechanic

Let me get this right:

You find it plausable that CCP would use AFK-cloaking to boost player numbers, a mechanic that is limited to nullsec only and would probably add 200-300 players at most, while at the same time CCP added jump fatigue, Aegis-sov and banned command multiplexing/duplication?

I think that is quite a big loss of numbers, even with the AFK-cloakers supposedly buffing the numbers. If CCP really wanted to buff the player-count, there are way more effective methods than AFK-cloaking.


Sorry to break it to you, but it's just a game-mechanic, not part of CCP's business-plan.

This is a new level of stupid, even from you....

Ratpack
You have the right you opinions as always, my dear friend.

In this case, you have the right not to understand these kinds of things.

Baltec
If checking a screen once every 5 hours is too strenous for you, then we certainly ruin afk cloaky camping for you.

The horror.

Ratpack
You have every right to your opinions, my dear friend. Feel free to think you have shredded anything you like :-).

Ratpack
Just be happy, my dear friend.

The introduction of a command burst style charge capacity for cloak modules might even strengthen an argument for the "surrogate wormhole" null sec mechanisms you seem to be a fan off.

Just look for the silver lining in life. It lessens the need to create drama.

Ratpack
And this 7000 post thread's sticky status is just some happy coincidental sign of CCP's indifference?

I realize that CCP had very good reason to be wary of changes that would decrease the number of active accounts on the server.

Say what you want about afk anything, but the afk-lifestyle is very good at maintaining server numbers. No human can match the pure online time of an afk account.

There are 3 500 null-sec systems (ref: my dear friend, google). And 23k accounts online at a time over a 3 month average (its currently 20k - which is also the 1 month average ref: Eve Offline).

So yah, tweakinng cloaking mechanisms before the introduction of alpha clones would have been a bad business decision.

Afk cloaky campers played an important role in making EvE seem more alive that is factually was. Its a big deal and afk cloaky camper accounts have done everyone playing EvE a great service.

But CCP has changed its business model. Alpha clones (and merging with the Chinese server in the new year) enters. Persistent afk cloaky camping exits.

Its fine that you are unwilling or unable to understand this.

Besides, what does it matter? If you are right and CCP will not introduced command burst charge function to cloaking modules, then you are right and I was wrong. But you will never be proven right. Not until the server permanently shuts down.

Opinions are just grand, arent they?

Ratpack
The chinese server is shutting down and the chinese will be merging with the rest of us.

I am sorry you did not understand what I was referring to. I should not have assumed you knew and should have chosen my wording more carefully.

Any other points I can clarify for you?

I am, as always, glad to help dear friends.

Ratpack
I was surprised myself initially. But there is a lot of nuance to the great firewall of China. Lets declare there was a official migration if a simplified chinese (mandarin) client is released, but not before that point.

Shall we continue to drift into off-topic drama for another half-dozen posts, or is the above definition ok and we can move on back to the matter at hand?