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[News] BLOOD RAIDER COVENANT CALLS ON SANI SABIK CULTISTS TO "RISE UP"
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Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#41 - 2016-10-18 17:39:37 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
... Sani theology ...

There's no such thing as "Sani theology".

Sure. Whatever you say.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#42 - 2016-10-18 18:47:54 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Odd, suicidal or just plain old stupid; whatever the Blooders motives they will be hunted and killed as they constitute a clear and present threat.

I'll send Sarikusa my regards via Republic Fleet EMP rounds.


Well, well. Something we could agree to spend the afternoon doing, Anabella...

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2016-10-18 19:44:07 UTC
Confirming that the Raiders have been spotted in J-Space, carrying some rather interesting and advanced boosters.

They're serious pushovers, though, I wouldn't stress too much about the threat these guys pose to capsuleers/empires, but rather, as usual, helpless civilians.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2016-10-18 23:08:15 UTC
This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.

There is a reason we are so useful.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2016-10-19 00:04:02 UTC
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.

There is a reason we are so useful.


Yeah, but I mean these guys are particularly useless. They don't even use capacitor neutralizers or energy nosferatus, like the usual blood raiders you'd come across regionally in the south.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#46 - 2016-10-19 00:06:20 UTC
Jason Galente wrote:
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.

There is a reason we are so useful.


Yeah, but I mean these guys are particularly useless. They don't even use capacitor neutralizers or energy nosferatus, like the usual blood raiders you'd come across regionally in the south.


They actually have a battleship vessel on some occassions that has an energy neutraliser.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2016-10-19 00:17:22 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.

There is a reason we are so useful.


Yeah, but I mean these guys are particularly useless. They don't even use capacitor neutralizers or energy nosferatus, like the usual blood raiders you'd come across regionally in the south.


They actually have a battleship vessel on some occassions that has an energy neutraliser.


Very rarely, yes. I've cleared at least a dozen of these sites and haven't found one yet.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2016-10-19 05:41:25 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.

I see it's now Blooder season again.

At least not Gallente season.

But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2016-10-19 10:02:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I am not sure about these pirates though.


You're kidding, right?

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2016-10-20 14:53:58 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
... Sani theology ...

There's no such thing as "Sani theology".

Heresiology.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2016-10-20 16:18:19 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.

I see it's now Blooder season again.

At least not Gallente season.

But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.


Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war.

That means our enemies have certain rights.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jjaro Durandal
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#52 - 2016-10-20 18:49:29 UTC
Do we know if they have started abducting capsuleers?
Bishop Lucas Bishop
Solar Flare Radio
#53 - 2016-10-21 01:48:48 UTC
The cult has collapsed
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#54 - 2016-10-21 08:38:36 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.

I see it's now Blooder season again.

At least not Gallente season.

But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.


Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war.

That means our enemies have certain rights.

Unfair, Tuulinen-haan! That was first your idea, I have just moved it towards more important targets.

Besides, weren't you a police officer? Don't criminals deserve fair trial to find out if they were actual pirates and committed actual illegal acts before you push the trigger?.. Unlike them, when you have wartargets - you don't need tribunals. You just shoot'em.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#55 - 2016-10-21 16:15:23 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.

I see it's now Blooder season again.

At least not Gallente season.

But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.


Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war.

That means our enemies have certain rights.

Unfair, Tuulinen-haan! That was first your idea, I have just moved it towards more important targets.

Besides, weren't you a police officer? Don't criminals deserve fair trial to find out if they were actual pirates and committed actual illegal acts before you push the trigger?.. Unlike them, when you have wartargets - you don't need tribunals. You just shoot'em.


Oh, you can shoot war-target ships without problems, Diana. I meant the crews to those ships and the Federal Civilians. There's not much you can throw at a war-target and feel bad about after, but you really shouldn't be killing the people, once they can't resist.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2016-10-21 23:33:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov Jr
"Crimson Harvest" organized by Blood Raiders covenants is necessary to stop. Not for the sake Catiz, but for the sake of saving lives and future date.

Eve Online Gallery/Final Journey/My older brother

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#57 - 2016-10-22 00:05:06 UTC
Vollhov Jr wrote:
"Crimson Harvest" organized by Blood Raiders covenants is necessary to stop. Not for the sake Catiz, but for the sake of saving lives and future date.

Looks like someone's mother gave up on being disappointed with their child's life choices and turned to alcohol...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Vollhov Jr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2016-10-22 00:16:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Vollhov Jr
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Vollhov Jr wrote:
"Crimson Harvest" organized by Blood Raiders covenants is necessary to stop. Not for the sake Catiz, but for the sake of saving lives and future date.

Looks like someone's mother gave up on being disappointed with their child's life choices and turned to alcohol...


Blood and Wine in a glass.
You can not imagine how many aristocrats in the Empire worshiped the "Red God" believing in eternal life.
They sacrificed to children !

Eve Online Gallery/Final Journey/My older brother

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#59 - 2016-10-22 11:36:44 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.

I see it's now Blooder season again.

At least not Gallente season.

But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.


Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war.

That means our enemies have certain rights.

Unfair, Tuulinen-haan! That was first your idea, I have just moved it towards more important targets.

Besides, weren't you a police officer? Don't criminals deserve fair trial to find out if they were actual pirates and committed actual illegal acts before you push the trigger?.. Unlike them, when you have wartargets - you don't need tribunals. You just shoot'em.


Oh, you can shoot war-target ships without problems, Diana. I meant the crews to those ships and the Federal Civilians. There's not much you can throw at a war-target and feel bad about after, but you really shouldn't be killing the people, once they can't resist.

Crews of Federal military ships are not civilians, they are Federal military personnel. Federal Civilian crew are in Federal civilian ships, and I don't care about them - just waste of ammunition. But those, who are inside Federal miliary ships - they are the enemies.

Just like those, who work on a pirate ships as crewmembers - they are pirates, not civilians. And if the enemy can't resist - it is their problem, not mine. They shouldn't have attacked us, and if they were so incompetent to lose their weapon - it is their disgrace and their shame. If I give them chance to return and grab another weapon, then some Caldari citizens and civilians might suffer because I won't be close to save them again from a gallentean occupant, that I foolishly let to escape.

All of us make our own choices what to do, whom to serve, and whose orders to follow. And everyone must answer for their actions and choices. Including crewmembers.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#60 - 2016-10-22 22:34:44 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Crews of Federal military ships are not civilians, they are Federal military personnel. Federal Civilian crew are in Federal civilian ships, and I don't care about them - just waste of ammunition. But those, who are inside Federal miliary ships - they are the enemies.

Just like those, who work on a pirate ships as crewmembers - they are pirates, not civilians. And if the enemy can't resist - it is their problem, not mine. They shouldn't have attacked us, and if they were so incompetent to lose their weapon - it is their disgrace and their shame. If I give them chance to return and grab another weapon, then some Caldari citizens and civilians might suffer because I won't be close to save them again from a gallentean occupant, that I foolishly let to escape.

All of us make our own choices what to do, whom to serve, and whose orders to follow. And everyone must answer for their actions and choices. Including crewmembers.


I used to have much the same attitude towards some hostile groups, principally Blooders. Then it was pointed out to me that you can't really interrogate a corpse or get much intelligence from a destroyed installation. As a consequence I don't destroy structures unless ordered to do so in a mission brief or by my FC. And I only destroy actively hostile ships, or merchant shipping that I have been tasked to interdict.

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.