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Seven Simple Steps to Success (CCP) ✔

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#61 - 2016-10-20 15:47:57 UTC
Session 1 wrote:



Gankers/griefers are bad for the health of games...just look at gaming history.




Sorry, but you're going to have to do better than just making a blanket statement and telling everyone else to study it out.

Things are rarely that cut and dry. If someone says high prices are bad for demand, they would mostly be correct... but then there are Veblen Goods.

In the abstract, this thread is basically complaining that a boutique store isn't Walmart, or that a trendy local restaurant isn't McDonald's.

The thing that differentiates them is the precise reason they have customers at all. If they try to emulate their mainstream counterparts, they generally don't steal market share from them - they lose what they had, instead.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Insistence
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#62 - 2016-10-20 16:02:04 UTC
pajedas wrote:

  1. Have a great product ✔
  2. Launch it properly ✔
  3. Maintain said product ✔
  4. Listen to your customer base ⍻
  5. Evolve ✔
  6. Keep your ego out of it ⍻
  7. Broaden one's horizons ⍻

I love Eve Online ♥

That being said, CCP needs to stop listening to a small, vocal group of players. If enough people want to practice a particular play style, let them! It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

You can have Actual High Security Space. You can have Actual Low Security Space. You can have Actual Zero Security Space.

Let the players decide where they want to be. What are you afraid of? Eve subscriptions would skyrocket!

Eve Online is a Universe. It can offer pretty much everything! Don't tell people that the only way they can be safe is to stay docked. That's just stupid. You may as well say, "just don't log in" which leads to, "just quit".

Is that what CCP wants? Is that what Novator Partners and the American investment fund General Catalyst Partners wants?

I doubt it.


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Your salt from having your spaceship popped is what makes this game worth playing to some people. Less QQ, more pew pew.
Zanar Skwigelf
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#63 - 2016-10-20 16:22:59 UTC
While most people will claim EVE is a PVP game, I always considered it a PVE game that only has a PVP server.

I moved over to EVE from ESO because the only way I could have fun in that game was PVE'ing on the pvp server, and realized that an entire game (EVE) is based around that kind of gameplay.

I don't understand why someone would look at EVE's 13 year history and say "it would be better if it was just another themepark MMO" Why not just drop EVE and go play the other themepark games?

Also, you already have completely safe space to rat and mine in. Its called the test server. No risk of ship loss due to unwanted PVP, no point to harvesting any resources since the market is 100% saturated with loot.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#64 - 2016-10-20 16:42:59 UTC
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:


Also, you already have completely safe space to rat and mine in. Its called the test server. No risk of ship loss due to unwanted PVP, no point to harvesting any resources since the market is 100% saturated with loot.



And here you reveal the not-so secret real agenda of the 'safety!' crowd. They aren't the least bit interested in avoiding ship loss or whatever. What they really want is advantage over other players, to have their cakes and eat them as well.

In this case, the advantage they want of being able to affect other people without running the risk of having other people interfere.


If all they wanted was to be left alone the Test server would be collapsing under the weight of all those logins. The irony of that is that if these "we need safety/I want to be left alone" people actually did play only on the Test server to get away from the 'griefers', that would signal to CCP that a live "PVE only" EVE server would be a viable thing.

(Related irony: all those people who post about how EVE must have avatar gameplay. Those same people stay in EVE (a spaceship only game) rather than vote with their dollars/time and go play one of the several space games that have some kind of avatar gameplay, signalling to CCP that they don't really need avatar gameplay Twisted ).
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#65 - 2016-10-20 16:53:40 UTC
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