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Incursions: CCP is too slow - now we will act

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Darius III
Interstellar eXodus
The Initiative.
#261 - 2012-01-18 08:03:44 UTC
Sin Istersly wrote:


Anyone else NOT voting for Darius next election?


Prolly the same amount that didn't vote for me before I'd guess. Who even said I was running for CSM anyway? What if I have had my fill of politics and it doesnt suit me? What if I am leaving to go play Harry Potter online? I kind like the idea of Quiddich racing.....

Hmmm
Swiftsoul Tian
Hardcore Smoochies
#262 - 2012-01-18 08:03:58 UTC
Sin Istersly wrote:
Swiftsoul Tian wrote:
Killa Von Murderer wrote:

I guess something like this could always happen.


what happened 2 mins later....

The can flipper came back with his can-flipping friends and puffed the hulk - muhhaaaa - risk risk!




Perhaps, but this was still a fight between two PVP'ers. Not a PVP and a carebear. Just because a PVP'er poses as a carebear, doesnt make him one. Were he actually a carebear, he would have lost his hulk during the first encounter if the hulk pilot we're foolish enough to flag himself to the griefer. Am I wrong?


I'm still an EVE noob with almost 3mil SP now. I would like to do some PvP but all I've seen so far was just gate ganking: wrap in, scramble, web, dot = puff - nothing to do for me.

Where are the promotional clips with that? Groups of gate gankers gank noob 24/7 - exciting PvP. And to my surprise I see the same gankers crying here. Where is the risk vs reward with that?

Just LMAO!
Orange Aideron
Voidlings
V0IDLINGS
#263 - 2012-01-18 08:04:16 UTC
Down with the mom's. CCP need to fix Incursions. Shinny fleets are boring. And what's up with the frig'n PLEX prices again - fanfest PLEX purchases?

Sigh ...

OJ
Swiftsoul Tian
Hardcore Smoochies
#264 - 2012-01-18 08:04:28 UTC
Swiftsoul Tian wrote:
Sin Istersly wrote:
Swiftsoul Tian wrote:
[quote=Killa Von Murderer]
I guess something like this could always happen.


what happened 2 mins later....

The can flipper came back with his can-flipping friends and puffed the hulk - muhhaaaa - risk risk!




Perhaps, but this was still a fight between two PVP'ers. Not a PVP and a carebear. Just because a PVP'er poses as a carebear, doesnt make him one. Were he actually a carebear, he would have lost his hulk during the first encounter if the hulk pilot we're foolish enough to flag himself to the griefer. Am I wrong?


I'm still an EVE noob with almost 3mil SP now. I would like to do some PvP but all I've seen so far was just gate ganking: wrap in, scramble, web, dot = puff - nothing to do for me.

Where are the promotional clips with that? Groups of gate gankers gank noobs 24/7 - exciting PvP. And to my surprise I see the same gankers crying here. Where is the risk vs reward with that?

Just LMAO!
Iskies now
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#265 - 2012-01-18 08:04:59 UTC
Hate mail may be directed to Iskies Now. I will enjoy reading every one of them Twisted. For those who liked it (I know how unlikely that is!) You may also send any words you feel need to be said to my box. Though please make sure to separate them from the haters xD.
Odium47
Perkone
Caldari State
#266 - 2012-01-18 08:08:06 UTC
So, let me get this straight...
You are a pirate
...and you want to disrrupt the activity of carebears in Empire (why? are you to incompetent to do it in low sec, null sec or wh? Is it too tough in there?!)
...moreover, it seems like even for Empire you are crying for help.
On top of these, you are making money from ratting just like incursion carebears in the first phase and then there is the extorsion part which seems to be a lot quicker and profitable !!!
Not to mention that your randsom extorsion cannot be disrupted by other pirates like it would in a regular low sec.
Also, you can agro carebears without points, semi-AFK and with faction/complex modules fitted.

So, dear sir or ma'am, would please refrain from expressing your desires 'cause it make me and others giggle!
Clyde ElectraGlide
Emara Entertainment Inc.
#267 - 2012-01-18 08:15:17 UTC
If I were to participate in these, it wouldn't be for 'hurrdurp bear tears' rather than to make a statement that incursions need looking at balance wise. When the people running incursions see it as more profitable to farm vanguard sites rather than complete the incursions, there's a problem. Maybe it's just me, but it kind of makes sense to, I dunno, complete the incursion? If there isn't incentive enough to do that, then there should be.

What I think could work would be that (keep in mind this is from the perspective of someone that's never done an incursion before) when the mom spawns, all the other sites despawn, or at least stop spawning rats. That would make killing the mom a priority, so that other incursions could pop up and the process could be done again.

In Need of a New Signature
Sin Istersly
Meat Locker
#268 - 2012-01-18 08:28:21 UTC
Clyde ElectraGlide wrote:
If I were to participate in these, it wouldn't be for 'hurrdurp bear tears' rather than to make a statement that incursions need looking at balance wise. When the people running incursions see it as more profitable to farm vanguard sites rather than complete the incursions, there's a problem. Maybe it's just me, but it kind of makes sense to, I dunno, complete the incursion? If there isn't incentive enough to do that, then there should be.

What I think could work would be that (keep in mind this is from the perspective of someone that's never done an incursion before) when the mom spawns, all the other sites despawn, or at least stop spawning rats. That would make killing the mom a priority, so that other incursions could pop up and the process could be done again.


I do have to agree on this point. Shouldnt getting to the mothership and taking it out be the ultimate goal of doing an incursion? I'm a newb, and from what I've seen in BTL Pub channel, I'm months at the very least from having the skills to even particiapte in an incursion. However, I still feel that finishing an incursion, and thus, reaping the ultimate rewards of completing it, should be the top goal of an incursion, and the ISK from sites and the lead up to the mothership should be no more then a bonus along the way.
Tyralyn
1st imperial crusade brigade
#269 - 2012-01-18 08:29:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyralyn
Darius III wrote:
Recoil Happens wrote:

Bet that won't be on Darius' re-election platform. Oh, if you only knew how close you were to being deposed... but don't give up hope! Not everyone is going to quit your alliance....


I want EVERYONE to enjoy Eve online. This includes hisec. Everyone must make money. I only want the ISK vs Work/Risk equation to be more balanced.


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%

I think incursions should be nerved a little bit but not to bad because they have 2 good points, the first point is incursions are the only social pve in eve and the second point is if the 0.0 leaders slave the grunts to hard they have the opionion to make money without be under ctontrol what guarantees a fair play in 00
Btw the second point explaines me the big campaign against the Incursions from the side of some 00 alliance leaders they fear to loos a little bit of the control they have Big smile
Cardval Simalia
Doomheim
#270 - 2012-01-18 08:38:05 UTC
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.
Tyralyn
1st imperial crusade brigade
#271 - 2012-01-18 08:45:06 UTC
Cardval Simalia wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.


i fly incursions too atm because i make a 0.0 holiday but i can say you one thing the income of the tec moons we had before was 1000% higher than everey corp can make by running 24/7 Incrusions so dont cry about incursions start think about moon monopoles and napped powerblocks
Iskies now
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#272 - 2012-01-18 08:49:30 UTC
Cardval Simalia wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.



And there we have the 'profile bear'. That person who was likely scalded by one or more incursion runner for not having the 'right fit.' Thus they began to think that ALL incursioners must be like them. That's almost like saying every null sec player's like Halada or Kartoon. But yes. EVERYONE who incursions MUST be a ****. Just like everyone in Low sec must be a pirate. There cannot be any exception to that right? You lot will do anything to try and make incursions look bad won't you? My question is why are you so bothered by it?
LacLongQuan
Doomheim
#273 - 2012-01-18 08:54:24 UTC
Tyralyn wrote:
Cardval Simalia wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.


i fly incursions too atm because i make a 0.0 holiday but i can say you one thing the income of the tec moons we had before was 1000% higher than everey corp can make by running 24/7 Incrusions so dont cry about incursions start think about moon monopoles and napped powerblocks

after many posts pointed out the hassle of living in null/wh, how ****** bounty in null is, how low pay wh is. you bears still hang on the tech moon excuse??

find something else
Iskies now
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#274 - 2012-01-18 09:01:32 UTC
LacLongQuan wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:
Cardval Simalia wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.


i fly incursions too atm because i make a 0.0 holiday but i can say you one thing the income of the tec moons we had before was 1000% higher than everey corp can make by running 24/7 Incrusions so dont cry about incursions start think about moon monopoles and napped powerblocks

after many posts pointed out the hassle of living in null/wh, how ****** bounty in null is, how low pay wh is. you bears still hang on the tech moon excuse??

find something else



Someone didn't read what was said.
Bootsy 79
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#275 - 2012-01-18 09:08:03 UTC
Finaly someone who is fighting this F*** Incursion Farmers. 6 Days Incursion is to much for a miner, missionrunner and producer. I would like to help but i can only use shieldtanked ships cause i am caldari. I am skilling for amortanks but this will need a few months to make it effective. By the way...i`ll join your channel to see what happens. Thank u so much...
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#276 - 2012-01-18 09:08:24 UTC
LacLongQuan wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:
Cardval Simalia wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.


i fly incursions too atm because i make a 0.0 holiday but i can say you one thing the income of the tec moons we had before was 1000% higher than everey corp can make by running 24/7 Incrusions so dont cry about incursions start think about moon monopoles and napped powerblocks

after many posts pointed out the hassle of living in null/wh, how ****** bounty in null is, how low pay wh is. you bears still hang on the tech moon excuse??

find something else


Whoa, hey pal, you sure you're playing this game right? Last i checked my hole was doing pretty well for itself.
Tyralyn
1st imperial crusade brigade
#277 - 2012-01-18 09:09:11 UTC
LacLongQuan wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:
Cardval Simalia wrote:
Tyralyn wrote:


-The point is 1.5% of the Eve players control 90% of the Money in eve and to control the money they need people
-Now we have the sitiation that people can make money without being under control of this 1.5%
Big smile


Incursion runners are the most elitist pricks in EVE what are you on about, they are the 1% and they are the biggest douches about it in game.


i fly incursions too atm because i make a 0.0 holiday but i can say you one thing the income of the tec moons we had before was 1000% higher than everey corp can make by running 24/7 Incrusions so dont cry about incursions start think about moon monopoles and napped powerblocks

after many posts pointed out the hassle of living in null/wh, how ****** bounty in null is, how low pay wh is. you bears still hang on the tech moon excuse??

find something else


olny the anger about the control fanatics in this game i lived realy well in 0.0 too but now i have a periode with much rl and i can´t fly 9 h cta´s + ratting to buy clone upgrades and new caps.
That is the reason why i was happy about the incurison to make a little holiday in high sec and get a solid money backup to get back in 0.0
The only thing i miss is the pvp but you should know no money no pvp :-P
Alxea
Unstable Pirate Sharks Of The Damed Sea
#278 - 2012-01-18 10:47:26 UTC
Krissada wrote:
Before words ----
Yes, it's this thread again. No, it's not just empty words.
This was posted many days ago, but I decided to take it down to have some chats with a few selected people before finalizing everything.


_____________________

We have come to the conclusion that even though blackbird suicide ganking is a profitable and very fun activity it only limits the Incursion Bear activities by some degree.
If we are to end their reign once and for all which has lasted for almost a year it is time we do it now.

We would like to announce the creation of a wonderful and most generous channel named: "Grief the Bears" with the sole purpose of taking down all motherships in highsec as soon as they appear and end the incursion just like CCP intended....
We shall put an end to this inhuman farming and abuse of game mechanics. We have to put a gag to this ISK faucet and shake up those bears.
If they wanna do incursions they can go to lowsec or nullsec. Pirate

What do we require and why do we need you?


  • 30-40 bodies to effectively fight off the site and finish it.
  • Armor buffer fit battleships and a handful subbattleships.
  • T2 logistic ships.
  • Empty tear jars.

So join us at the channel ----> Grief the Bears
and let us finally put an end to all this.

Once all the highsec incursions are down they will not respawn for another 24+ hours. When that one will spawn it will only take the bears 4-5 hours to make the mothership appear and then we shall sweep in yet again and finish it.

Can you imagine highsec where the bears only get to incursion 15-20 hours for a whole week?
I can and it is filled with tears....


PS: Beware that extracting a sufficient amount of tears will result in merc wardecs hired by rich bears. I see this as a side bonus!

_______________


Above is the simple plan. We cannot keep on waiting and whining to CCP. We are taking matters into our own hands with or without you.
If you want to join, feel free to. If you rather not that is fine too.
But if you want to whine and complain because we are stopping the ISK faucet then make sure you are crying into one of our jars.

Fly much reckless Twisted


Heres a better solution, CCP should make incursion space all 0.0 no matter where it is, even in highsec. Sec status should not matter. That will raise the risk greatly and allow us to kill the bears. Pirate
tu at
Doomheim
#279 - 2012-01-18 10:56:31 UTC
good job Ammzi , good job :)
tu at
Doomheim
#280 - 2012-01-18 10:57:24 UTC
tu at wrote:
good job Ammzi , good job :)
.... I ment Krissada :)))) nvm , same person