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My drakes fitting for PvE note pls
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macdaddypain
Aldebaran Eclipse INC
#1 - 2012-01-18 07:55:48 UTC
3x Power Diagnostics Systems 2
1xShield Power Relay 2

4x Large Shield Extender 2
1x Shield Recharger 2
1xV-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix(soon to be invuln feild 2)

6x Heavy Missile Launcher 2
1x Salvager 2
1x Small Tractor Beam 1

2x Medium Core Defence Field Purger 1
1x Medium Core Defence Field Extender 1

fitting says 150.3dps missile and 38.3dps drones

51,364 total hp 205shps 26,573 shield hp 322s recharge time

keep in mind this is for missions and i would also like to know how likely some1 in nullsec would engage it
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-18 08:22:58 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAegix
That isn't a great fit.
Anyone would gladly engage it.

Use this, except T1/meta instead of T2, if you can't manage the fitting or skill reqs.

[Drake, L4]

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5



Replace the hardeners with mission specific ones. With perfect skills you'd get 510dps and a 735hp/s tank against Guristas.
It'll run missions slowly, ever so slowly, but it's very safe.

Replace a shield power relay with another ballistic control system if you're comfortable.
macdaddypain
Aldebaran Eclipse INC
#3 - 2012-01-18 08:37:50 UTC
oh the drone dps is off I only had 4 on and they arent my t2s also i do only operate in high sec

i have 2 questions

1 ive noticed that my shields recharge seems to get faster the lower my shields hp gets so it seems like its charging faster at 50% than 90% is that true or is it just me

2 how much resist should i get with that build?
Sven Hammerstorm
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-18 10:38:29 UTC
Peak recharge is around 1/3 of your shields
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-01-18 10:54:02 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAegix
For that fit, you'll get about 89.4% kinetic resistance, and 73% thermal resistance (perfect skills).
This is tailored for Guristas, who very, very roughly deal about 75% kinetic damage, and 25% thermal.

Anyway, resists are irrelevant unless you have logi support. Only pay attention to overall effective hp/s in pyfa or EFT, factored to the type of enemies you'll be resisting against in your mission.
Mike712
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#6 - 2012-01-18 11:19:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike712
DarkAegix wrote:
Anyway, resists are irrelevant unless you have logi support. Only pay attention to overall effective hp/s in pyfa or EFT, factored to the type of enemies you'll be resisting against in your mission.


That's a pretty silly thing to say, resists are very important for mission setups, you will rarely get enough tank by boosting HP/s alone.

Using mission specific resists means you can use less slots on tank and more on increasing damage.

macdaddypain you loadout does not have enough DPS for level 4 missions, for level 3s fit allot less tank and more damage mods, missile rigs/target painter(as you'll mainly be shooting cruisers).

Don't waste missile hardpoints on a tractor or salvager.

[Drake, Mission Drake]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Large Shield Extender II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

^that setup will tear through level 3s.

Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team
AstarothPrime
Pecunia Infinita
#7 - 2012-01-18 11:28:57 UTC
150 dps is LOW - even for a drake...

If you are in 0sec / lowsec you can expect everyone attacking solo drake ratting / missioning, by everyone - I mean EVERYONE, (even ppl in noobships will try, lol)

You best chances of surviving are: finish a.s.a.p.

Thats it.

I.

Remarks on fit:

1) You don fit omnitank on missions, it wont save you from gankers
2) Lows should pack 3xBCU !!!! That is kinda mandatory low fitting for drake. That 4th slot is used to fix the "weak" point in your fitting...
3) 7x HML in highs, no more no less, otherwise its failfit IMO

Suggestions:
... train weapon upgrades and advanced weapon upgrades ASAP !!!! most useful skills in game if u take on fighters way :)

Regards

I.
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#8 - 2012-01-18 11:40:26 UTC
AstarothPrime wrote:

3) 7x HML in highs, no more no less, otherwise its failfit IMO


I fully understood what you were trying to say, but I really can't help myself... WTB Drake with 8 launcher hardpoints.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-01-18 11:45:21 UTC
Mike712 wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
Anyway, resists are irrelevant unless you have logi support. Only pay attention to overall effective hp/s in pyfa or EFT, factored to the type of enemies you'll be resisting against in your mission.


That's a pretty silly thing to say, resists are very important for mission setups, you will rarely get enough tank by boosting HP/s alone.

Note how I said effective hp/s rather than HP/s alone!
I know my stuff Blink
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-18 11:49:09 UTC
I'm not familiar with 0.0, I'm with low sec though.

It's a double edged knive.

more dps to finish/ the mission faster, or more tank to substain more damage.

Personaly I think it's the tactic you feel best with.

In low sec I fly something like this

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Hobgoblin II x5


(Hydra F.O.F. Heavy Missile on de side for jammers)

it is slow, it won't kill anyone that ganks you, but it will turn the solo attackers away, since most won't get through your tank. and if they are in a group you're dead anyway.

No specific harders, not realy needed when your skills are high, with the exception of the manetic scattering device
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#11 - 2012-01-18 11:54:08 UTC
I would rather fly in Bantam than in Drake
macdaddypain
Aldebaran Eclipse INC
#12 - 2012-01-18 22:37:28 UTC
also ive noticed whenever i fight ecm ships when they actualy manage to jam me i can get off maybe 1 salvo every 4mins and fitting the gear that made my sensor strenght better didnt do anything to help any advice about that would be greatly appreciated
Orlacc
#13 - 2012-01-18 23:23:32 UTC
macdaddypain wrote:
also ive noticed whenever i fight ecm ships when they actualy manage to jam me i can get off maybe 1 salvo every 4mins and fitting the gear that made my sensor strenght better didnt do anything to help any advice about that would be greatly appreciated


T2 light drones

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-01-19 10:23:39 UTC
macdaddypain wrote:
also ive noticed whenever i fight ecm ships when they actualy manage to jam me i can get off maybe 1 salvo every 4mins and fitting the gear that made my sensor strenght better didnt do anything to help any advice about that would be greatly appreciated



As mentioned above

F.o.F. missiles in PvP (mind returning your drones before firing) when running missions drones.
Ameron Phinard
#15 - 2012-01-21 04:35:39 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:

Shield Power Relay II


Use the M4, not the T2 -- exact same stats, but less fitting cost.
Spineker
#16 - 2012-01-21 05:40:34 UTC
Train for a real ship, drake is inefficent and why people are scart of it is just silly. It is basically a POS for pve BUT it does let new players a in on playing the game. So it should be left alone. I would be embarrassed to die in a drake unless I was a new player.
Spineker
#17 - 2012-01-21 05:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Spineker
Sort of like war of the worlds hysteria! People should be ashamed to be scared of this **** hahaha. There are very dangerous ships out there waiting to pounce on you. They don't start with D either.
SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#18 - 2012-01-21 16:48:04 UTC
Spineker wrote:
Sort of like war of the worlds hysteria! People should be ashamed to be scared of this **** hahaha. There are very dangerous ships out there waiting to pounce on you. They don't start with D either.



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Domi
Devoter
Deimos


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