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Targeting Solo PVPers/Pilots - How have your experiences been of late?
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Tek Nite
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-10-11 19:57:44 UTC
Greetings fellow Capsuleers and Solo Pilots, o7

I just wanted to get a feel for the current state of play from a multitude of sources in regards to how everyone has been experiencing their own specific gameplay as a solo pilot. With all the recent changes we have received, the changes that continue to roll out weekly it seems and with upcoming changes how has your solo activities been affected? Regardless of any changes in game mechanics I'm also simply just interested to hear how you have been getting along. I'll give some examples.

Has the pew been slow or have you seen any increases? If so are there any patterns to the increase or decrease?

Has it been harder to find good solo fights? Or is it pretty much the same as always. Good solo fights vs tackle + local spike + blob.

With an the new frigates and destroyers being brought into the game this past 6 months I was hoping to see a more diverse composition of general targets flying around (I've been semi-AFK for most of this time 6 - 12 months) Last I played ever soloer was in a condor, tristan and garmur.

Anything at all really to add to the conversation is welcome = ) I can't play right no due to material and tech issues rather than RL or work problems. So I'm just looking to get involved even if it's just good conversation.

I will be coming back next week on a more permanent basis and I am pretty exited about that. Just want to get my head wrapped around what to expect and how things have changed. Anyway, I appreciate any and all replies as usual.

Regards,
Tek Nite
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2016-10-11 20:26:42 UTC
T3D have invalidated everything from destroyers down, the Svipul being the worst offender.
Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#3 - 2016-10-11 20:33:42 UTC
do you mean actually solo, or "solo" with scouting alts, boosting alts, logi alts, etc.?
David Therman
#4 - 2016-10-11 20:45:22 UTC
This is a question that also needs to be asked in a couple of months, as that's when OGB will have ceased to exist.
Tek Nite
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-10-11 21:26:31 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
T3D have invalidated everything from destroyers down, the Svipul being the worst offender.


What do you mean, sorry? I've not played since the T3Ds and their tactics were implemented so I do not understand.

Isaac Armer wrote:
do you mean actually solo, or "solo" with scouting alts, boosting alts, logi alts, etc.?


However you like to do your thing. I run a scout sometimes if I am flying something flashy just so I don't get ganked on a gate by a blob. As far as links I do not run them but have nothing against them, logi alts are for fags, (maybe that's where I draw the line?) Idk. Having scouting alts and links in fine if you are a solo pvper. You almost never fight solo anyway you have to take on multiple targets so why not have some links on your side. they will be gone soon anyway so idm. Logi alts and falcon alts are gay **** and for people who have zero skill. The reason I don't want to call it "making a line there" is casue with links and scout you can still die. you are jsut evening the playing field. But with logi and falcon alts your just a zero risk *** that wants kills but has no skill.

David Therman wrote:
This is a question that also needs to be asked in a couple of months, as that's when OGB will have ceased to exist.


I look forward to this day more than I would look forward to having sex with Scarlett johansson....20 seconds later and after a few google searches I can confirm that I just lied. But I digress. Still, this day I look forward to. Next best thing to nerfing ECM
Tek Nite
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-10-11 21:29:42 UTC
To you baltec1

I jsut watched the video. Is the Svip really that OP? That was insane.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2016-10-11 22:16:11 UTC
Tek Nite wrote:
To you baltec1

I jsut watched the video. Is the Svip really that OP? That was insane.


Yes.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#8 - 2016-10-11 23:48:12 UTC
Tek Nite wrote:
... logi alts are for fags...


Scouts, links, boosters, implants, ecm, falcon alts, tanky t1 bait alts, OP unbalanced iWin ships...

the list of things that some define as not purely solo is long and saying it's for fags / girls / commies / whatever imparts no information. It's just where you draw the line.

I draw no lines, i know what's out there, every engagement is a dice-roll. This allows us to be brave / cowardly rather than just executing the weak and avoiding the strong. Any commitment to a fight can spiral horribly out of control into a whole 'nother situation.

Solo is a weird myth that springs from the child-abusive idea of a fair fight.

My lowsec view is the same as ever: people bling and fly the most overpowered hull they can and bleat about honor only when things don't go their way.

TLDR: svipuls are how you scare off fights, killing only those unable to escape or too ignorant to try.





Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#9 - 2016-10-11 23:59:21 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Scouts, links, boosters, implants, ecm, falcon alts, tanky t1 bait alts, OP unbalanced iWin ships...

the list of things that some define as not purely solo is long and saying it's for fags / girls / commies / whatever imparts no information. It's just where you draw the line.

I draw no lines, i know what's out there, every engagement is a dice-roll. This allows us to be brave / cowardly rather than just executing the weak and avoiding the strong. Any commitment to a fight can spiral horribly out of control into a whole 'nother situation.

Solo is a weird myth that springs from the child-abusive idea of a fair fight.

My lowsec view is the same as ever: people bling and fly the most overpowered hull they can and bleat about honor only when things don't go their way.

TLDR: svipuls are how you scare off fights, killing only those unable to escape or too ignorant to try.


brave of you to post this with your NPC alt.
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-10-12 07:53:29 UTC
Isaac Armer wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Scouts, links, boosters, implants, ecm, falcon alts, tanky t1 bait alts, OP unbalanced iWin ships...

the list of things that some define as not purely solo is long and saying it's for fags / girls / commies / whatever imparts no information. It's just where you draw the line.

I draw no lines, i know what's out there, every engagement is a dice-roll. This allows us to be brave / cowardly rather than just executing the weak and avoiding the strong. Any commitment to a fight can spiral horribly out of control into a whole 'nother situation.

Solo is a weird myth that springs from the child-abusive idea of a fair fight.

My lowsec view is the same as ever: people bling and fly the most overpowered hull they can and bleat about honor only when things don't go their way.

TLDR: svipuls are how you scare off fights, killing only those unable to escape or too ignorant to try.


brave of you to post this with your NPC alt.

He should post with his PvP "main" instead. That way he makes a target of it.

... on second thought, maybe not such a good idea?

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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#11 - 2016-10-12 08:01:47 UTC
Isaac Armer wrote:
...

brave of you to post this with your NPC alt.


Please quote the part of my post that would be made more or less true by posting with a main.
The work of finding my main has been completed by people who are really dense, if anyone wants to target a lowsec bad who flies mostly t1 and kills mostly newbros, go right ahead.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#12 - 2016-10-12 10:22:34 UTC
I've started soloing again a little bit (mostly 0.0); but the meta is quite oppressive at the moment:

- Rapid light missile launchers: will screw you if you are flying destro and down. You either fit them, or face them.
- Svipul: already covered in this thread, but pretty much limit your choices when you want to fly sub cruisers and take most fights.
- HIC point: makes camping you easy as ****. Invalidates a lot of solo roaming cruisers. Also makes kitting battleships even harder to fly.

However, there is light at the end of the tunnel:

- On-grid links: will probably make some parts of space less deadly (FW?) and overall a healthier playing field. The side effect might be more ECM & logi alts
- Svipul nerf: will probably help too

I feel like it's not harder to find fights, yet it's a bit harder to find fights you can actually take.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#13 - 2016-10-12 13:08:56 UTC
My experience hasn't really changed. I always considered solo PVP a waste of resources, and I still do. There's just no point apart from "having some fun". However, I just don't find it fun to play solo against what are mostly groups. I'm just not that good, I do not use alts, and I by now I'm terribly bored of the required PVE to fund those replacements after 5 years of playing. So how about you donate me a PLEX and I will let you know... :D
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#14 - 2016-10-12 13:28:25 UTC
I think it's really difficult to find another player like myself who doesn't tug around their alt that does any of the following: logi, off grid boosting, eyes, etc. Where have all the true soloers gone?

There are a few people out there in the entirety of lowsec who might be after the same thing but it's like other's have said how those of us who choose to start our fights at the bottom of the hill get what we deserve. Not to generalize or anything but it's what I've experienced.

Instead of looking for PVP, I just run around and PVE in PVP fits. It's not optimum ISK/hour but neither is roaming endlessly in empty chunks of FW other than the usual faces and their links.

I've had some cool fights in sites though :)

@lunettelulu7
Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#15 - 2016-10-12 13:49:59 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
He should post with his PvP "main" instead. That way he makes a target of it.

... on second thought, maybe not such a good idea?


Tell me how being a target with a PvP character is a bad thing. Wouldn't that get you fights?
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#16 - 2016-10-13 13:36:12 UTC
I've never been targetted for what I said on the forums. Ever. Unless you count my posts as a reminder that we exist for blanket wardeccing groups. That being said, we have some new corp members. Could one of you hisec mercs dec us again please? We need to get these newbies up to speed on how to do their shopping when decced. Thank you.