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CYNO rebalance!
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Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#81 - 2016-09-10 03:14:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Teddy KGB
Kenrailae wrote:

You REALLY need to go back to 2013/2014 and remember just how much cyno's got used back then, and compare that to now.

Carriers were very weak against subcaps that days. very pity if you don't understand that.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#82 - 2016-09-10 03:23:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Teddy KGB wrote:
Kenrailae wrote:

You REALLY need to go back to 2013/2014 and remember just how much cyno's got used back then, and compare that to now.

Carriers were very weak against subcaps that days. very pity if you don't understand that.



lol what???? back when they used sub cap drones they were far more effective solo than they are now. and in groups they could spider for days

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The 16.8km Bubble
Lugh Crow-Slave
#83 - 2016-09-10 03:24:38 UTC
Teddy KGB wrote:
Quote:
Problem is caps have already been nerfed into the ground. AND they have very few ways of dealing with any sort of sub caps without support of their own.

Shocked
maybe you should check out my videos where i kill hacs+logis in a single thany. just let me know if you want the link


then they were not set up well only takes a griffin to lock down a carrier

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#84 - 2016-09-10 06:56:06 UTC
And then the kids complained that they don't haz content in farmville online.

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Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#85 - 2016-09-10 10:33:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Teddy KGB
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

then they were not set up well only takes a griffin to lock down a carrier

if a person in carrier is able only to a feverish spam of F1 button, then yes i think grifin can even solo kill that carrier.


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lol what???? back when they used sub cap drones they were far more effective solo than they are now. and in groups they could spider for days

i don't remember that earlier i could instapop flying interceptor with my 3500dps and 30k alpha strike flying 10k speed..
and we are not discussing capital fights here. 1 FAX + 2 Carriers today are way more effective than 3 carriers in spider that day.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#86 - 2016-09-10 11:10:27 UTC
what interceptor are you insta popping that only has 400 ehp?


and idk what you are even talking about with the f1 spam

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
GROUND XERO
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#87 - 2016-09-12 06:41:05 UTC
I don´t get why it should harm any great fleet batteles at all ...like " who will bring their caps in first".... you can cyno everywhere in system on a gate and just jump into system...blah blah blah ..... it is about the fact that every single ship in eve can fit a cyno and bring in a drop.... while there is on a ****** anchor thinngy and a sov thinngy to prevent this.... and this is not enough from my point of view!


A real counter for small stuff would be great !

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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2016-09-12 12:13:54 UTC
Teddy KGB wrote:
And *** yes. Pay a price for dropping people.


they already pay the price of fatigue and jump timers

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GROUND XERO
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#89 - 2016-09-20 05:57:26 UTC
and.... i still need my counter....

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Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#90 - 2016-09-21 08:20:30 UTC
GROUND XERO wrote:
and.... i still need my counter....

i just thought that ccp will never go for it. they intoxicated by donate system. they sell isk to those who come in eve and want to win on that carriers. if they make carriers less attractive they will loose pfofit. i realised it when got my thany killed by a titan piloted by a 3 days old capsuleer.
Just think how many plex you will need to get in a titan. 60 plex for skill injectors + 100 plex to buy a titan. 160 plex = $2.600 not bad, huh? the temptation of easy money is too big. just put yourself on their place. you can try and make EVE better, but you don't know 100% if it will bring new players. On other hand you allready have existing players and you can make them pay more for sure.. not all but part of them. At first sight it will bring more money faster, but if we look farther we may see the point of no return.


instead of making the entire game attractive to all people, they make free to play solutions, however this will simply rise online for a short time. new players attracted by f2p will be just crushed by those carriers again and online will keep dropping. i appealed to ccp here on forum many times last 3 years. i told them to stop doing it. but they don't want to listen and keep loosing subscribers.
Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#91 - 2016-10-11 16:34:02 UTC
my friend and i were roaming for 6 hours today. funny, but we had 3 cynodrops today. luckely we evaded all of them with kills of cynoships, but the fact is that everywhere capital ships are dropping. and it's really time to do something with it. besides we've met roaming dudes only one time for entire roam. this is sad..
Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#92 - 2016-10-11 17:39:56 UTC
Teddy KGB
Red Warming
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#93 - 2016-10-12 20:53:27 UTC
another day = another cyno...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f_DqUVPnF0
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2016-10-13 08:31:02 UTC
move space?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Teddy KGB
Red Warming
3200.
#95 - 2016-10-13 08:55:55 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
move space?

wha?
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#96 - 2016-10-13 09:59:54 UTC
I don't see much of a problem there. Sure, it can be frustrating (just like your alliances' dicking around in Curse in general, but that's just a sidenote); however, you can easily scout their location and counter these 2 carriers with 2 dreads or a BS fleet. You have the numbers for that counter drop.

Your suggestions for cynos, however, would not fix the problem -- they would make cynos completely unfeasible for next to anything.

Moving space, on the other hand, is also not a solution to anything. You just need to prepare a bit to teach these cocky kids a lesson or two.

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Ras Blumin
A Cross The Universe
#97 - 2016-10-13 11:38:11 UTC
If not adding a spool-up timer, how about adding something like a ship hp and resist penalty to cynos? Something like -20% to each for regular, -10% for covert.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2016-10-13 11:43:37 UTC
Ras Blumin wrote:
If not adding a spool-up timer, how about adding something like a ship hp and resist penalty to cynos? Something like -20% to each for regular, -10% for covert.


Why?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Ras Blumin
A Cross The Universe
#99 - 2016-10-13 11:59:59 UTC
To make it more risky to fit a cyno obviously. You can still hotdrop people, your cyno ship is just more likely to go down than it is now.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2016-10-13 12:04:50 UTC
it doesnt make it risky at all, as soon as that cyno is up the fleet are jumping, people use brick tanked t3's which wont make any difference

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*