Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Remove the NPC Corp Restrictions on Player Movement so that we may (hopefully) create better NPC corps for new pilots

Some time ago the CSM tabled the notion of social corps.
from memory this was a controversial proposal
with many and varied opinions , from joyous applause to knee jerk reactions ,flaming-pants-on-head hysteria,
wailing and gnashing of teeth being among some of the notable reactions.

Whilst still apposed to that particular idea (still have singe marks on the back of my head)
the spirit of the idea (or something broadly similar) has somewhat stuck with me
and the topic came up lastnight in a lengthy discussion.

We can pretty much all agree that NPC corps can be poisonous ... could be a better place for newpilots,
and that the alternative of joining an established player corp or creating their own
puts them directly in the firing line of an alliance like mine .
given the state of NPC and the potential for a new pilot to end up in a crappy punching bag corp with an absentee
(or incompetent) ceo, that there is a need here and with Alphas on the horizon its a need that should be addressed.

the aim of Social Corps (or my limited and biased remembrance of it anyway)
was to allow mates and in particular new pilots to band together without immediately becoming a legitimate target

so

I think the restriction on player movement between npc corporations should be lifted,
largely to avoid the situations i have described above but with the added bonus of veterans with an altruistic streak (you know who you are) could actually take their mains (with the implied reputation) into the poisonous echo chambers less than desirable npc environments and potentially shape them up a bit.

i dont think this hurts anything as the carrot of owning structures and all of the other benefits that come with being part of a player corp are still there while allowing newbros who just arent ready for wars to be together (ngwaaaaaaaa)
and also enabling vets to check up on the health of the environment without needing to roll new characters with no reputation or credibility.

Have at it lads id love some feedback
*activates thermal hardeners*

Why?
The racial division in NPC hardly serves anything more than lore sensibly,
and keeping it still leaves me out of the loop if my mates all roll galente because : sunglasses : at this point we either look at the recruitment channel (o______°), or form up on our own and potentially run smack into ventetta,marmite,atype,whoever.
I think NPC standings could effect it if you're set on putting restrictions in place but I don't see why they should have to become legitimately targetable just to be under the same banner as there mate's.

You could simply create a new character in the NPC corp of choice.

It is the way it is because CCP's emphasis was on getting into player-run corporations.

Why do you need to hide in NPC corps when you've been quite successfully living the lowsec dream for years?

Adding veteran players back into toxic NPC corp chat is not going to make NPC corp chat less toxic. Given the behaviour of many groups, I'd suspect that allowing veteran players to migrate between NPC corps at their leisure would lead to further harassment, baiting, doxxing, and general abuse.

The barrier to entry of creating a new character has been high enough so far to restrain the trolls and misanthropes.

I would rejoin my alma mater in a heartbeat. At least I'd have people to talk to who are online when I am, and aren't me :D

The idea here is specifically to cut down on the amount of newbies starting Corps just to be in the same "clan" only to be chewed up
Because they've put themselves in a position to be.
I'd like to see healthier and more robust Corps starting up and I believe giving players more latitude in what they're doing early on might help with this

Veterans are already in these Corps trolling and spouting nonsense now though and if you're unlucky enough to be in a particularly toxic one you'r options are
Crappy NPC or a potential plowing in a war.

Obviously we want them in good corp's with solid leadership that will facilitate their aims and growth but realistically not everyone can find one in highsec and many aren't ready/interested in low/null/what space

So in the interim why not make NPC a healthier place for newbies to be in.
If one has a less toxic atmosphere than another , why shouldn't a newbro be allowed to join it with his mates?

+1. Yes.

Alternatively, cut the number of starter Corps from 12 to 4 and allow people dropping to an NPC Corp from a player Corp, the ability to drop back to their starter Corp.

My idea for this back in the days was to automatically enlist all NPC corp members in FW.

@OP: I like the idea, but would restrict it to starting corps. I think I read something about standing loss when shooting/podding someone in an NPC corp a while back and we don't want everybody to join the one that runs Jita 4-4.

I think everybody should go into one npc Corporation when they first start out but have somebody police it

Yeah I agree that this isn't the only or best way to achieve it,
I do think it's one of the simplest things that could be done, on the surface anyway (obviously scary code non withstanding).

That's actually a fairly valid concern , I hadn't considered that.
I don't think I have an answer for it either right now.
I'll give it some thought though.