Missions & Complexes

Typical story, returning player wanting to enjoy the new space ships

Before leaving and even now, I can only play every now and again, so I play missions with a lot skills invested in missiles.

Is it possible to blitz lvl 3s in a missile ship like the drake? I know back in the day it was possible, but is it still today?

side note: I do have some drone skills, but nothing great. Doing 4s in a rattlesnake now.

Edit: clarifying my meaning of "heavy missile skills"

Maybe an Orthrus? Minimizes the flight time issue. This is probably overkill/too expensive but it might do the trick:

[Orthrus, blitz L3s]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
10MN Afterburner II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

The goal of blitzing is to complete the mission as quickly as possible (i.e., so that mission completion flags have been triggered). Therefore, it is indeed about how long it takes to run.

Anyone know of these fits for the tengu? You have peaked my interest.

Ok, here's what happened:

Stoic ran a Mach thru a couple dozen L3s. He was blitzing them as fast as he could. He kept track of the time it took for each mission and what he made for each mission. He put this on a spread sheet. His goal was to see how much he could made in one hour. I don't remember exactly what he was making, but I'm going to guess at 90+M/hr.

I thought I could do the same. At first I used a Ferox, it could dish out damage good enough, but it was a brick. I needed something faster, much faster. So I fitted a Tengu.

I'm not remembering the exact numbers but the Tengu beat the Mach in blitzing L3s, same/same missions, 21/23 times.

Here's my fit, for the old post:


Rigs: 3 x Hyperspatial Velocity Opt. II (9.32AU/sec)

HIghs: 6 x 250mm Rails II, Caldari Antimatter, before nerf 720dps, after nerf 670

Mids: 3 x Tracking Computer II, (optimal range/ tracking speed script)
Sensor Booster II, (Scan Res.)
Pith C-type MSB (this is the tank, and worked just fine in blitzing)
10mn MWD II

Lows: 4 x Federation MFS (or 3 and one Inertial Stab)

Sub systems:

Diss Seq.
Supp. Screen
Power Core
Mag Inf.
Grav. Cap

Implants: WS-610, MR-703, MH-805, SS-905, WU-1003

There was a procedure that Stoic and I talked about as to when to start the timer and when to stop it. It was a hectic pace.

-Kirst

As they say around here train reading comprehension to at least level 1.
I stated that blitz was not about minutes and seconds, it is about running them as quickly as possible and that is a relative thing not a specific amount of time in minutes and seconds. The actual number of minutes and seconds required to blitz a mission is dependent on ship / fit, character and player skills and will vary significantly. Because SP, ISK and fancy toys there are level 3 missions I can full clear in less time than it takes a new to the game corp mate of mine to blitz the same mission. Because I am faster than he is not relevant to the situation, that he can complete the same mission faster by blitzing than he can by full clearing IS relevant.


Back to this again crap again.
So YOUR fit was rails, does that mean that a missile based Tengu cannot blitz missions? Or is this just another form of the ugly max ISK / LP per hour thingy. As above the speed in a blitz is a relative thing and not a goal for a specific number of minutes and seconds. If you run a "blitz" style in a missile Tengu you will complete the mission faster than you will if you full clear in the same ship.


Both of you seemed to have missed this little jewel in the OP. You might take it to mean that he is currently using heavy missiles, however it can easily be interpreted that he is heavy in missile skills and lacking in turret based weapons system skills. Considering that others were offering suggestions for turret based I choose to go with this alternative interpretation and suggest ships that he could use "if" he was heavy on missile skills and low on turret based skills. Is there some problem with offering a player that we know very little about options?

Not my work, I concentrate on COSMOS but read this write up on mission blitzing. It will point you in the right direction as to whats involved.

Mission blitzing by Anize Oramara

Just want to clarify . . .

Blitzing missions: This actually can be done in any ship that will get the job done. You go into the mission and do just the minimum of what is required to complete mission. That's really it. It can be done quickly, efficiently, or slow boat.


Then, as in the "rabbit's hole" of posts, Stoic and I "BLITZED" missions. In BLITZING missions, you go as fast you can. You accept the mission, hit the timer, undock, head to mission either in system or one over, enter mission, complete objectives, head back to station, dock, close the mission, stop timer. It's a hectic pace, and for Stoic and I, seconds count.

If you're hair isn't on fire, you're just not going fast enough.

So, in blitzing missions, you can use either missiles or turrets, doesn't matter. However, if you BLITZ missions, use turrets.

Hope that helps.

-Kirst

I went in and dug out Stoic's Mach fit.

It would hit 5.2AU/s, and put out 1000+ dps. I believe he was one shooting everything, and split his turrets up.

Rigs:
3 x Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

High:
7 x 800mm Cannon II, Phased Plasma

mid:
3 x Tracking Computer II
Sensor Booster II
100mn MWD II

Low:
3 x Republic Fleet Gyros
2 x Signal Amp II
MAR II

had some implants also

So, for BLITZING L3s this Mach does very well.

Go read Stoic's post:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345580

And actually, it was suggested by Tsukino Stareine to use a rail Proteus. A Proteus, fitted similarly, would do very well too.

-Kirst

Tiber, I'm not going to defend Stoic's Mach, that would really be for him to do. I do not fly one.

You could read his post for yourself.

With the 3 tracking computers he was doing very well with those big guns. "1005 DPS, Range 4.8km to 69km." Those big guns were also cycling at 3.2 sec.

Part of the problem that I was facing, putting my Tengu up against Stoic's Mach, was that his time in the mission destroying targets was a little faster that my Tengu. So I had to get back and forth from a mission in a faster time than his to even things out a bit, so I used T2 warp speed rigs. My 250mm rails were cycling at 3.1 sec. and they were eliminating targets pretty quickly too.

The Cynabal may do pretty good in BLITZING L3s. But, to get the range needed in some of the missions, it may have to use 720s, and they have a cycle time of 7.2 sec, so that will play a huge factor in the completion times compared to the Tengu and the Mach.

Go ahead and fit out a Cynabal and see how it does.

-Kirst