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From one newbie to all the up and coming Alpha clone newbies
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Manadh Agarsador
Doomheim
#221 - 2016-09-21 21:45:28 UTC
A wardec is a wonderful opportunity to learn how to die with grace.

Flying what you can't afford to lose is a wonderful way to learn how to generate isk fast.

Null sec is a great place to learn how dangerous high sec is (and how you should be wary anytime you see anyone).

Faction war is an excellent way to trash your security status and take up the manly man's pursuit of piracy.

But stay out of wormholes. There is nothing but death there and certainly nothing of value.

Do not stubbornly rebel against the ways of the world. Do not mindlessly follow the ways of the world. Think lightly of yourself and think deeply of the world. You can abandon your own body, but never let go of your honor. Miyamoto Musashi, Dokkodo
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#222 - 2016-09-21 22:21:58 UTC
Manadh Agarsador wrote:
But stay out of wormholes. There is nothing but death there and certainly nothing of value.


You're crazy. WHs are the Mad Max world in EVE. It's the best part of the game.
Manadh Agarsador
Doomheim
#223 - 2016-09-22 07:24:30 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Manadh Agarsador wrote:
But stay out of wormholes. There is nothing but death there and certainly nothing of value.


You're crazy. WHs are the Mad Max world in EVE. It's the best part of the game.


No, its super boring, don't listen to her. Nothing of value in a wormhole.

Do not stubbornly rebel against the ways of the world. Do not mindlessly follow the ways of the world. Think lightly of yourself and think deeply of the world. You can abandon your own body, but never let go of your honor. Miyamoto Musashi, Dokkodo
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#224 - 2016-09-22 11:05:07 UTC
It is part of the Opportunities that you MUST go into a wormhole.

Have to finish that, don't you?
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#225 - 2016-09-22 11:20:06 UTC
Manadth must be joking or has interests in keeping population out of WH space.

Apocrypha expansion was the last truly innovative and awesome expansion during my time in EVE. That was one of the most memorable moment in EVE for me. A new unknown space where anything goes (except cynos and supers and titans, which one could argue is a good thing), unconquerable via any mechanic, only dominatable through active player presence and force, no local, it was just amazing.

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
Josh Sharvas
Doomheim
#226 - 2016-10-09 16:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Josh Sharvas
For the first time I am actually enjoying this game every time I log on. This particular character is a little over a month old now. I don't play actively (As in every day) as I'm pretty busy so I'm more of a weekend warrior. I can't believe I never before figured out how missions actually work. Can you believe that after a year I never knew how the standings system worked and how many missions to run before storyline and what the purpose of that was? All because I was always trapped doing corp related stuff before :(

So now I'm figuring it all out and enjoying the process :) and once I get into decent ISK earnings to support myself I can join the militia, or try SOE, or exploration or decide to get into more dedicated player corps again. Even if it all goes wrong I simply did it my way without interference and that is the point! - particularly for a player who can't spend every single evening playing this game and keeping up with the politics, vis-a-vis the majority at this age bracket I assume.

One thing I will say is that if a new player does require the handholding of a corporation early game - don't be scared to join up at all but be equally confident to thank and leave them if things aren't working out or if you need to try new things again. That's also part of the problem I admit I had which was "feeling bad" for leaving a corp.

On a totally unrelated note: I really can't wait for the new character screen and the new fitting tool :D This will help players like me immensely!
Josh Sharvas
Doomheim
#227 - 2016-10-09 16:52:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Josh Sharvas
Looks like other players on these forums have similar concerns regarding random wardecs in HiSec which was partly one of my frustrations here as well.

I will say this - I believe the logic and attitude by which the general Eve community (Not all) approaches / backlashes this issue is disheartening to me. Those threads are soon locked and referenced to some sort of preconceived general consensus on the matter that is just not satisfactory.

The, "Oh Eve is meant to be dangerous bla... bla..." rhetoric. Yet I fail to see the actual immersion creating substance (Which is kind of important for me as a gamer) behind a random illogical wardec whereby a small corp has to up and move all their assets away from major trade hubs to stay safe just because, "That's how Eve works and it is oh so dangerous and look at me hardcore player" and "If you don't like it move or...".

*sigh - I want to scream, "YOU BLOODY FOOLS THAT IS NOT THE POINT!" Haha :) Most players I'm sure accept the dangers of Eve and welcome it with open arms - if genuinely warranted and immersive and not illogical.

I will however take some solace in that the issue now appears to have been recognized and there might be some changes coming in this regard - i.e. cost or risk for wardec. My one long stretch suggestion (Needs more thought I will admit) is to further open up Eve to PvP - which is quite counter intuitive mind you. But I won't get too much into that here :)
Minabunny
Bogus Brothers Corporation
#228 - 2016-10-09 16:57:36 UTC
What makes you think alpha clones will bring in any new players to begin with?
Josh Sharvas
Doomheim
#229 - 2016-10-09 17:00:26 UTC
Minabunny wrote:
What makes you think alpha clones will bring in any new players to begin with?


Oh that is just a hope not a certainty for me :) And worst is if it only works short term.

I have 2 or 3 gamer friends I've advertised the Alpha Clone thing to who say they will now check it out but this is just a personal experience.
Crux Ashmore
Perkone
Caldari State
#230 - 2016-10-10 18:41:49 UTC
I think the most crucial lesson learned, is never give advice on the Eve Forums.
Welisa Aldent
The Minmatar Yakuza
#231 - 2016-10-11 10:20:35 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
I have another advice: dont take advice from anybody, they may set you up for trap or scam you!
Just explore the game on your own and have fun being killed and scammed nonetheless.


Thats the way i took when started eve Shocked
Best way of learning
Nerodon
x Shinsengumi X
#232 - 2016-10-11 19:39:07 UTC
When I started, I was told to train my learning skills (Circa 2006) before doing anything else. Granted that was a stupid system and we are all glad it's gone. But I didn't feel like subbing after my trial... Felt like it would take too long before I would actually have any fun in eve. That's because some people had created arbitrary "Must haves" for almost any activity in the game.

At the early stage, player interaction has been my biggest incentive to subscribe after my second trial. I liked the people I met, I wanted to play with them more! The social aspects of Eve are probably the most deterministic of the fun you will have. Any new player can feel good if part of a team, no matter how small and new they are. By trying to match up to their peers, they will learn very quickly, and that makes good eve players.

The message should rather be more geared to some more veteran corps to be patient and attentive to new players and teach them all that they too can join the great eve family without having to reach a predefined set of X millions of SP.