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Clone states will allow all past and future players to play EVE for free for as long as they want. In this third dev blog about Clone States, we would like to give you answer questions you had.

The CSM, collecting community feedback and raising various concerns, and their most recent CSM summit in Reykjavik, were of great value. What about Alpha accounts doing planetary interaction? Industry? How is the transition being handled from Omega to Alpha, can you still access your PI farms? What about POS management with Alpha accounts?

Learn more about the this in the latest blog Clone States - Post CSM Summit Roundup!

+1 gazillion for alphas getting gas harvesting

Sone i dont se any Point in subing anymore the alpha clones are gona be just fine whit out subing..

They get more and more skill they can do more and more, get acess to more and more of the game.

And we that pay for the game gona get more gankers, more mission item ninja looters, and all i se is a big - on beeing a sub atm.

Atlest they should force all alphas to have green safty on in high sec,

Overall, very nice changes. Everything seems to be in good order and good feedback.




I agree here. I do not believe that skill unlocks anything special, so it would make sense to add the ability to train it to 4 or 5. Normally I would say adding support skills would not be something to do often, but in this case it does make sense. Even in high sec, some warps will cause issues.

Overcoming alfa login include :
- using multiple PC ?
- internet connections ?

What about science industry jobs.
Can alfa be blocked to install / deliver jobs for corporation?

For years this is the simple and still working abuse of this system.
Create alts, get them to corporation, install long time jobs for corporation and deliver it from other corporate char while while character starting them is unsubscribed for months.

PI alts, maybe - have you considered introducing high NPC PI tax on all POCOS ?
I can be wrong, but ability to make more money (or actually make money ) on the PI can persuade some people to subscribe.

Is there truly any further benefit on keeping the drone skill tied to the number of drones you can deploy?
At this point in time it would make sense to change the skill to a 2% per level damage increase ( while reducing the base damage to compensate so that they have neither a buff or loss in DPS) and allow for 5 drones from the start.

Disallowing Alpha clones from fuelling starbases is a good move but I have to ask how it is being achieved.

Preventing them from having relevant roles is not going to work as you can set POS fuelling permissions to be open to corp or even alliance. I know this is a headache for CCP but I needs flagging up sooner rather than later.

I guess I am in the minority, I would rather see people be able to multibox as many alpha accounts as they wish.

I also don't like the change with the industry tax for alphas. I would rather like to see Limits gone for everyone in all industry job tasks. There is already a mechanic for charging more isk for more job installs at stations. If people go crazy the job costs go crazy and they would have to move around. No need for taxes..

If High Sec ganking is a issue, make it so anyone with a certain Negative Sec standings cant not dock anymore in any high sec NPC station. Let Citadel owners have a sec rating option to allow or disallow based on sec rating. If groups of people are ganking and using a citadel, now people have a target to go after instead of gankers hiding in npc stations.

Congratulations on a successful summit. The alpha changes all seem reasonable. I still recommend adding Armor Rigging for Minmatar since several of their ships can be armor tanked well enough. Would also like to know what skills the alphas will start with so we can get suitable ships ready for them on day 1.

"The CSM’s number one focus for Clone States matched the biggest concern from general player feedback: simultaneous Alpha clone logon must be limited...
There are two reasons to make this kind of restriction.
The first and most obvious reason is the potential for abuse and exploitation.
The second, which the CSM focused on heavily, is that we don’t want to create a situation where normal players feel obligated to run Alpha alts."

Why am I not surprised about this outcome from a CSM that strictly represent the high-end players, the PLooNS of the game, with the agenda of protecting their interests, and not the interests of new or more casual players.

let's talk about "the potential for abuse and exploitation".
What kind of abuse and exploitation would the multiple login of Alpha brings that multiple login of Omega does not bring?

As for the second point
"we don’t want to create a situation where normal players feel obligated to run Alpha alts."

LOL... I like the use of the term "normal"...
Frankly, which player in the CSM is not running more than one account, if not half a dozen or even a dozen? None.

There is no normal player in the CSM, and yet they somehow assume that making normal players feeling obligated to run Alpha alts would be bad. So the nature of the game of alts they are taking full advantage of is being denied to "normal" players, as Alphas won't be able to multibox.

Clearly, this is another succesful attempt from established, long time players to protect their own advantages in-game rather than welcoming the newer or more casual players in the game of alts.

What is more surprising is that CCP is playing along with that...