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Her Name Is Olivia #B4R

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Secue Nahrnid
Tritanium Industries and Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2016-10-06 12:47:09 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
No, really? Are you f#@cken serious?

"Woman tried to kill herself 'cause of playing EvE. Let's make a citadel for her and let everybody know 'bout it!" - "Yeah, great idea!!"

"I'll donate a char for her in game that almost killed her!" - "Yeah, brilliant!! Do it!"

It looks like you, guys, got too much EvE.

Don't get me wrong - i'm really sorry for dat drek happened, i'm sorry for Olivia troubles and wish her the best, imma totally sorry-ass. But. If you're attemping to kill yourself 'cause someone call ya names in the f#@cken GAME, the problem is not in the game, and not in the community, and not in some dumbasses who don't know when to kick and when to hug and head-scratch. The problem is in ya.



Can we please get some kind of idiot/immature child filter on this thread.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#22 - 2016-10-06 13:09:41 UTC
Secue Nahrnid wrote:
Can we please get some kind of idiot/immature child filter on this thread.

I should take a note for myself:

"Mature - the person, who is asking for filter to hide behind, instead of to face the real problem".

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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2016-10-06 14:40:23 UTC
Harassment is bad, getting people in a position where they contemplate suicide is bad. (although history of humanity has plenty of examples of puberty rituals forcing individuals to do things that make them solidify their place in their tribal/barbaric society then to in turn to lead these puberty rituals which select suitable males for breeding rights, which may not be a suitable topic of conversation in an internet spaceship game's forum in retrospect...)

This may not be the thread for this but: would we care the same (read: to an equal degree) if a male was forced into the situation (so change variable gender; ceteris parabus.)
Would this person then also get a community that is great (EVE community is great on occasions...) to erect a citadel in their name. (Although i don't quite get the structure/logic behind buying people citadels for other people it must be related to human emotions.)
This leads me to popularity. Is popularity of a person possible factor in getting others to erect monuments to them living or dead? Is there a correlation between gender and popularity leading to irrational acts of philatropy of other parties?

This is a social pondering by myself getting more insight into the humand psyche, try not to take it personally.
Tirestun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2016-10-06 15:42:39 UTC
Arkoth 24 wrote:
...If you're attemping to kill yourself 'cause someone call ya names in the f#@cken GAME, the problem is not in the game, and not in the community, and not in some dumbasses who don't know when to kick and when to hug and head-scratch. The problem is in ya.



This is exactly the problem. People going through depression and worse need support. When asshats like you come in here and try to shift the blame to the person who was _driven to attempt to take her own life_ because a couple of disgusting human beings wanted to get their wrigglies off, that's a problem with the community. It _absolutely_ had to do with a couple of "dumbasses who don't know when to kick and when to hug". They went to the single space in EVE online that's supposed to be removed from the cut-throat, HTFU, 'git gud' pseduoculture of the rest of the game, and proceeded to take advantage of someone's mental state to drive them to attempt suicide.

It's a complete bullshit argument that you're making here to say that the problem lies solely on the person who was vulnerable. It simply is not. One of our own was bullied to attempt to take their life by fellow members of the community we are all a part of and you're sitting here kinda-sorta defending the people who did this?

I'm not depressed, but I have been in a place very close to it (which I did seek professional help to deal with, and I did). When I finally ******* realized it was time to get help it was because my friends helped me realize that I needed it. They did that by talking, listening, and ******* empathizing with me about my problems.

I'm lucky. I had close friends who were willing to lend me an ear. I can't speak for Olivia, I don't know her personally or what her circle of friends are like. Some people simply are not as lucky as I am. They have to seek other avenues to find people to listen and empathize with them.

Obligatory "Of course B4R is not a replacement for professional help". ******* duh, we all realize this. People do not, however, simply have a switch flipped in their head where they wake up one morning and say 'I need to get professional help' in a vaccum. More goes into it than simply that; the switch isn't a toggle, it's a dimmer, and sometimes people need some help turning the brightness up.
Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#25 - 2016-10-06 17:05:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Jerr
As usual, as in any online community, there are people that like to cross the line of human decency and forget the contest of the game.

To have weak people in game isn't an excuse to play mentally with them, in the comfort of anonymity behind a screen.

Like the past story of a scam that continued outside the game on Soundcloud. The guy played mentally with his human target, which this one was out of bound of the context of Eve to accept such things too...

It' s never all a one-sided story, and also not only specific to online communities...
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#26 - 2016-10-06 17:28:39 UTC
Unfortunately, this sort of thread will attract a lot more trolls and will only get worse as time goes on. I'm going to close it now before it gets out of hand. Thank you.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
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