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This is a ticket I have submitted to CCP recently and they responded that they would forward it to DEV. They also suggested that I submit it to this forum and we will see the reaction ! So this is what I am doing right here :


Dear CCP,

I have been playing EVE for 6 month now as a new player, and would like to share with you a few comments and my opinion in general about the game. I am very disappointed by the PvE aspect of the game which in my opinion is a real disaster.

Among the most annoying pieces:

1. COSMOS missions are broken, often end up in dead-ends. They loot nothing valuable and are not worth the time playing them.

2. Normal missions are obsolete, repetitive and extremely boring, each race has way too many agents, but they all provide the same scenarios, no surprises, no original content, no descent loot, no embedded PvP.

3. Faction standing progress cuts you out from a big portion of the game because when you progress in one you regress in another making it impossible later to participate in 75% of Faction Warefare. This is a disastrous design !

4. CCP Dev does not introduce original content (PvE events) as much as they should. The only, I mean the only (besides citadels) original content CCP has introduced this year was the Amarr Purity event (which would also provide immediate trading and PvP possibility) which is the only positive note. You need to introduce many more like those. That is one event for the year (the others were no go's).

5. There is no "in-between" difficulty playing environment half way between PvE and low-sec/null PvP. Its either too difficult (low-sec PvP), or too easy (PvE). This design is again a disaster. This is because the EVE player base is aging making for new players the learning curve way too steep.

6. Security status is a real pain in the neck, it makes you juggle between low-sec and high-sec in order to get your sec status back, either pay a fortune or spend weeks in obsolete missions.

7. The incentive distribution in EVE between High-sec, Low-sec, and Null is totally totally totally broken as well ! High-sec is dry like a desert, there is absolutely nothing nothing nothing to loot from. You battle for an hour just to get a few light missiles as loot !! what the heck. Low sec same (it has become a PvP arena and nothing else which is quite sad), exploration same. Null sec is in-penetrable, run by boring player run corporations which are all but worth joining.

8. The Game still has a very annoying flaw/exploit making suicide ganking way too easy. That cuts off for many players the Hauling and Mining activity. I know I tried it and its so easy, its almost like cheating.

9. CCP will introduce in November alpha clones, a fitting tool, some graphical design improvement and GUI enhancement. That is nice but CCP need to enrich the PvE content before anything else. At this moment, I can tell you the PvE content its not looking good, it's outdated, boring, is not worth the time because of disastrous loots. You urgently need to hire more/better Devs for EVE, I mean really, do it and work on that.

10. The Citadel upgrade is only directly usable for maybe 0.1% of the players, I mean seriously who can afford running those ?

11. Same applies for POS.

12. Please CCP, stop spending money and resources on "VR" Virtual Reality R&D, it's going nowhere ! the only thing you get with VR is a stomach pain (sea sick like hell) and you look like an idiot while playing it.

13. Forthcoming alpha clones: they wont work in the long term and will become CCP next headache because they will require extra man-power resources in order to monitor and fix abuses and ultimately they will de-gradate the overall game experience ! they are only a quick fix for more fundamental issues in the game (like I comment above). Alpha subscriptions will create a 6 month rush in mining and missions and then it will all resume as today like a melted cheese. Alpha clones will also open doors to BOTS, Jita Spammers, and more suicide ganking, which are all three cancers in this game ! It will be very difficult in the future to separate the noisy alphas from the real alpha players. CCP, It is not a good idea to under-sell your services. Players are willing to pay if the content is good ! If you give it away for free, its a signal that you might not be in control of your business.

As a general note, CCP, it seems to me that you are trying to dance on two different rhythm at the same time ! PvP and PvE, and you sell your product as a PvE game, where as in reality it is not a PvE game (rather half way only). Ultimately the game seems to evolve run by a fragmented community who cannot agree about the fundamentals on what should be done.

I hope you will take my comments seriously and address them for the coming month and year, for the sake of this game which has huge potential.

Best Regards,
From "A Motivated Player."
O7 !

1. Yeah, fair point.

2. Agents are numerous so that people can travel to distant parts of the universe and still have an NPC that's friendly with them. And there's enough so that all levels of players are encompassed by this.

3. Actions have consequences. That's one of the defining tenets of Eve. That said, I don't understand why you're saying that "cuts you out from a big portion of the game" is a problem when you complain in point (2) that all of Eve is filled with homogeneous agents.

4. Did the Guristas and Serpentis events not happen this year?

5. FW is a pretty good in-between. Start with the novice/small sites. Newbies today are more useful and more dangerous today than they were when I started playing.

6. Actions have consequences. That's one of the defining tenets of Eve. Go train up the correct Social skills. Pop into nullsec for a day and grind up that security. It's easy if you know how to maximise the use of your time.

7. Of course highsec is a desert. You have the magic space police with their admin gun and admin ammo to protect you while you make easy money. I make all of my income in lowsec. You're patently wrong about lowsec, null, and exploration. I looked up your corp history. MBK Mining has a total of zero kills to its name. That corp has terrible leadership. Go join Brave Newbies, or Pandemic Horde.

8. It was easier. Every year it gets more difficult to gank in highsec. Why should one single person in a rickety old hauler be able to survive against a group of people in combat ships?

9. Cool.

10. 0.1% you say? I say 99.9%. I'm right. You're wrong. Provide numerical evidence to the contrary. You've plucked a ridiculous number out of the air.

11. See point (10).

12. This has nothing to do with Eve. It belongs in the Out of Pod Experience section of the forum.

13. Explain how all that will happen. Don't just state that it will happen. Convince us (and CCP).


WHOA. WHOA. WAIT WHAT?

I thought this was a PVP game. I've been lied to all this time?

No, seriously. Eve is not a PVE game. The most important thing right now if for you to tell us why you thought that. If there's people joining up thinking eve is for PVE, then you can help CCP to fix their advertising problem.

3. I should have said : "...cuts you out from a big Faction Warefare portion of the game and some missions which are not presented to you". FW is my favorite part so far, and I would like to participate in all 4 factions, but I can't because of my negative standing. As per today I am stuck on Caldari FW. The least which could be done is to calculate the effective standing (taking into account the trained skills) when applying to a FW faction rather than the raw standing which is a pain to bring back to zero.


You need to go back to the roots and do some FW and revise your opinion on this. I do it most of my time in EVE. FW is already brutal because of pirates who roam low sec (solo or fleets endlessly back and forth the pipelines) in search for easy kills. The problem is that a vast majority of them are not looking for fights but only easy kills to show off on their kill board ! They often enter the plex with blink super charged faction ships against which you have ZERO chance and the only thing you can do as newbie is run and learn nothing in the process. I was lucky once having a fight with a pirate flying a "normal" T1 ship who explained to me a few tricks but this is nowadays pretty rare.


This is a huge subject of debate, too long to elaborate here. There are tons of ideas to try out and make the ganking more interesting for both sides in the fight. Definitively something CCP should try to elaborate and make it more fair for both sides. I have already presented some ideas to CCP so that the ganker still has good chances but is exponentially penalized if he repeats the gank over and over again at the same spot. I also had some ideas in order to give the targeted victim a better chance to escape.



I do not have access to relevant data to prove this nor access the CCP databases. But this is how you and I would be able to have the real number: take a list of all characters who log on avg 10+ hours per week for 2015, filter them by age and consider only those ages between 2 month and 2 years, look at their wallet balance (ISK cash, not assets) and sort the list. You will be shocked by the result, it would be nowhere close to what is required to run a Citadel. Do the same again but this time take only characters with age being the medium on a standard Gauss curve on the total population.


Easy ! although I am not here to convince anybody, I am only here to give my opinion.

Alpha clones will break a fundamental rule in EVE as you stated earlier: Actions Have Consequences. An alpha clone is totally anonymous, no credit card attached, no valid eMail, no way to link the character with the player, they are also not garbage collected after one month. Use your imagination and do you see my point now ? One possible scenario: an army of alpha bots cruising around belts and mining or suicide ganking at multiple gates systematically and repetitively around the clock, or sending out spams in local in crowded systems. It takes a cheap 200 USD PC and 5000 lines of code to program this with a scripting tool. There is no easy way to stop this possible scenario to happen unless CCP monitors this around the clock ! Do you really think that CCP will spend their time in cleaning this mess if it happens ? its going to be a full time job which would be much better filled by a software developer rather than a watchdog !

Until now, temporary accounts would automatically expire and therefore doing an auto-cleanup. But with alpha clones: no more.



Yes, I understand and I agree with you fully, but CCP needs to adjust their advertising / marketing communication better and the first place to do so is in the O7 show ! And then on their web site. The Web site is ambiguous, the marketing flyers miss-leading, it presents the game with blink open features without telling that being killed in this game by other players is the common denominator, and is in fact routine and not exception.

I have already been insulted like a dog in local because I dear attacking a player in high-sec or try to steal his loot to force a PvP fight. This should be fixed by CCP. I think that local chat should be permanently removed from the game.