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Intaki Ripples on Placid Waters

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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#1 - 2016-09-28 12:04:47 UTC
Namas Tayam

I recently spent some time in contemplation, thinking about recent events in New Eden and how they reflect the cycle of existence in the cosmos. Much like the tide, we all experience this universal pattern of ebb and flow.

When I turned my thoughts to the Amarr coronation, and the advent of a new Empress, this metaphor of the tide and water resonated with me. In my contemplation, I visualised the Empire as a long shoreline, its golden sand stretching into the distance and standing against the churning surf and dark ocean beyond.

Closer to home, I imagined the fluidity of the Intaki to be akin to a river, flowing ever onwards. I saw how, as if in reflection of our temperament, its waters parted and joined together as it took the most natural routes through its surroundings, leaving its mark upon the landscape.

Recently for the ILF, these Intaki waters have run deep, and so have appeared still to those who look upon the surface.

Some may have become concerned that our stretch of the river is no longer life-giving, and has become stagnant. I’m happy to reassure our friends and supporters that life still teems beneath the surface, and our efforts on Intaki Prime and beyond continue tirelessly.

This quiet period is because some time ago, we made a conscious decision to step back from the debates here on the IGS, but I feel it’s an appropriate time to return, with a fresh approach to discussing Intaki separatism.

Let us create some ripples on these Placid waters.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2016-09-28 13:54:26 UTC
Always glad to see efforts for Intaki self-determination.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#3 - 2016-09-28 14:15:58 UTC
Are you sure you're not associated with the People's Front of Intaki? Bloody splitters.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-09-28 14:20:02 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Are you sure you're not associated with the People's Front of Intaki? Bloody splitters.


That was the Popular People's Front. I think he is the People's Popular Front which is an understandable mistake to make.
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#5 - 2016-09-28 18:03:49 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Are you sure you're not associated with the People's Front of Intaki? Bloody splitters.


That was the Popular People's Front. I think he is the People's Popular Front which is an understandable mistake to make.

If you mean the Intaki Peoples Front then no, we are not affiliated.
Diana Kim
Kenshin Katana.
United Caldari Space Command.
#6 - 2016-09-29 06:05:23 UTC
The Placid waters have a serious problem. It is a pipe, stretching from the Federation. Daily it dumps a lot of sewer and filth from this pump bubbling and gurgling with hedonism, individualism and egalitarianism. They pollute your culture with their indecent and amoral customs, which spread like a brown stinking filth across your water, rising stench in the air.

Maybe it's the time for you to consider to cut this pipe and clean your waters from the humiliation of gallentean influence?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Streago en Thielles
Intaki Business Review
#7 - 2016-09-29 06:57:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Streago en Thielles
Namas Mehesha Bataav,

I find your words inspiring. It is no surprise that such an eloquent way of understanding, should be fostered by one woven from the rich tapestry of Intaki Prime. In space, such fluids are amorphous, with no predilection for one form or another, lest confined to a vessel. It is perhaps why such images of a golden coast award glimpses of definition to the flow, if only through the temporary pauses of waves crashing on a shore.

If it is these externalities that award form to the onlooker, then certainly it is the many threads of the Intaki tapestry that form to channel these waters to their worlds. And as each thread is unique, but ever subtly adding to the greater visage of identity, so too is their breadth and span's impact to the currents of these tides, slowly, but consistently, eroding at previously established forms, and shaping the landscape anew.

Perhaps then this is why prideful Diana Kim comments the way she does. Her disdain for the subtle changes brought by each individual, makes a work of beauty into chaos, and evolution, a disease. It is certainly this individual's perspective - my perspective, that many that worship the State, have forgotten that it is individuals that make up the State, and not the State that makes up the individuals. No relevant material in the universe is of a single molecule. And even the molecules are made up of their smaller, unique arrangement of components. For any such material to be of a size that could be viewed with the naked eye, would be so rigid, that the lightest breeze, or wave no more imposing than the consequence of a ripple, would shatter it.

Life as we know it, cannot exist without water. And the teeming pools of Placid are posed for a cambriac explosion into the cluster, that no Federation (let alone State) vessel can contain. I raise the waters of Intaki Prime in libation, to pour outward, and carve my own form among the cluster.

Thank you for these words of encouragement Bataav. I, and the Intaki Business Review will rise to meet you in Placid.


Pratya yavati,

Streago en Thielles
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#8 - 2016-09-30 09:02:03 UTC
Well, if your intentions are for peaceful collaboration and growth between our peoples, Bataav, then I certainly welcome your contributions here, and as a Delegate to the Villore Assembly. I look forward to talking with you soon.

Regarding your message of "separatism", I feel you will find the situation similar to attempting to cut off your own arm or leg, a futile and harmful endeavor. There is so much to be accomplished together, than apart. Please contact me if you wish to discuss this further.

Regards,

Soter

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Silen Serine
#9 - 2016-09-30 21:18:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Silen Serine
Being some 13.5 parsecs from Intaki, I think my proximity to their homeworld perhaps an apt metaphor for my understanding of the Intaki frame of reference, particularly in the topic at hand. Of the many peoples who comprise the Federation, such a patient and contemplative nation as they would make a seemingly perfect compliment to the temperaments of Villore, Ladistier, and Luminaire.

So in the interest of discussion, if not only my own illumination: why separatism?
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2016-09-30 22:08:49 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:
Well, if your intentions are for peaceful collaboration and growth between our peoples, Bataav, then I certainly welcome your contributions here, and as a Delegate to the Villore Assembly. I look forward to talking with you soon.

Regarding your message of "separatism", I feel you will find the situation similar to attempting to cut off your own arm or leg, a futile and harmful endeavor. There is so much to be accomplished together, than apart. Please contact me if you wish to discuss this further.

Regards,

Soter


And if it isn't harmful then steps can be taken to make it so, eh?

It never ceases to amaze me how an organisation supposedly founded on liberty can be funded by armed oppression and so utterly unable to understand the desire of others for self-determination.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2016-09-30 23:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: John Revenent
Julianus Soter wrote:
Well, if your intentions are for peaceful collaboration and growth between our peoples, Bataav, then I certainly welcome your contributions here, and as a Delegate to the Villore Assembly. I look forward to talking with you soon.

Regarding your message of "separatism", I feel you will find the situation similar to attempting to cut off your own arm or leg, a futile and harmful endeavor. There is so much to be accomplished together, than apart. Please contact me if you wish to discuss this further.

Regards,

Soter


All three of us know just how open you are to peaceful talks. They usually involve holding a pistol to your opposition's head while they are forced to kneel before you. Your actions years ago will not be easily forgotten.

As always the Intaki Liberation Front has my support, I'll continue to be at their disposal.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#12 - 2016-10-01 01:31:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Bataav
Julianus Soter wrote:
Well, if your intentions are for peaceful collaboration and growth between our peoples, Bataav, then I certainly welcome your contributions here, and as a Delegate to the Villore Assembly. I look forward to talking with you soon.
The ILF has championed peaceful collaboration since our founding ten years ago and, despite aggression and declarations of war against us by pirate groups and others, we have always adopted the role of bridge builders.

More recently we have adopted a more robust approach to some specific challenges in and around Intaki, but our core principles remain unchanged.

With regards to my position as Delegate to the Villore Assembly, I am honoured to represent my corporation and alliance, and the wider political movement that goes far beyond those organisations. I will be more than happy to discuss Intaki matters with my fellow Delegates, and I hope to bring clarity and understanding to a subject which I feel has been misunderstood and misrepresented by some of our opponents in the past.

However, please understand that, while we congratulate the Villore Assembly on its involvement in the ceasefire on Tei-Su, and other initiatives across New Eden, we in the IPI and ILF do not seek or expect resolutions to be passed and announced by a pro-Federal capsuleer lobby group.

We welcome support from across the political spectrum but, with respect, we do not require your validation.

Julianus Soter wrote:
There is so much to be accomplished together, than apart.
It may surprise some, but I agree.

However, as I have said elsewhere, when cooperating and working together, when uniting in some way, it is important not to surrender yourself into that union. True partnership can only be achieved by separate and whole beings who retain their separateness even in unity. This applies to personal relationships and business affiairs, and to political and social groups.

This is not so in the Federation.

Intaki must regain its sense of self. It must become separate and whole once more. Only then is a meaningful and honest relationship with the Federation possible, with both partners as equals.

Silen Serine wrote:
So in the interest of discussion, if not only my own illumination: why separatism?
Separatism is not the same thing as isolationism.

It is the taking and accepting of real responsibility and accountability. It is self determination and true freedom. It is the ability to reach for and realise our potential in ways that are currently not available to us as part of the Gallente Federation.

It is my intention to clarify and explain our position on a number of matters, hopefully answering your question on why we believe separatism is the best way forward for the people of Intaki.
Silen Serine
#13 - 2016-10-01 02:45:05 UTC
Bataav wrote:
It is my intention to clarify and explain our position on a number of matters, hopefully answering your question on why we believe separatism is the best way forward for the people of Intaki.

I will refrain from posing additional questions, then. I am sure the matter is not simply rendered complete and comprehensive in a forum post anyway. Please do know that my asking is not itself intended as a criticism of the position you hold.

In the interim, I will attempt to familiarize myself with more current arguments, in particular the distinctions between Intaki ethnicity, the Syndicate, and the homeworld itself. Policy is, as you inferred in your opening analogy, fluid.
James Syagrius
Reclamation
#14 - 2016-10-02 21:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
And here we are again, the perennial conundrum of supposed discontent proclaimed by the usual suspects.
Bataav wrote:
More recently we have adopted a more robust approach to some specific challenges in and around Intaki, but our core principles remain unchanged.
An interesting turn of phrase.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Always glad to see efforts for Intaki self-determination.
John Revenent wrote:
As always the Intaki Liberation Front has my support, I'll continue to be at their disposal.
Should ‘Intaki Nationalism’ ever gain popular support, its advocates will certainly be judged by the company they keep.

I look forward to your contributions in the Assembly.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2016-10-03 06:13:17 UTC
I am WONDERFUL company, James. Ask me to dinner and you see if I'm not!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#16 - 2016-10-03 12:08:47 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Should ‘Intaki Nationalism’ ever gain popular support, its advocates will certainly be judged by the company they keep.


Yes, because it's always best to be judgmental and pejorative than to actually consider an idea based on its merits, right?

This is why the Tribes are so wary of our 'allies'. For a government so dedicated to freedom, the Federation certainly doesn't see fit to let populations exercise that right when it means they no longer want to be part of it.
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#17 - 2016-10-03 13:07:14 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Bataav wrote:
robust
An interesting turn of phrase.
Intentionally so.

James Syagrius wrote:
Should ‘Intaki Nationalism’ ever gain popular support, its advocates will certainly be judged by the company they keep.
Just as Intaki is judged today, under Federal governance.

While it certainly matters who we build partnerships with, the important point is that we have the freedom to decide.
Turelus
Utassi Security
#18 - 2016-10-03 13:28:50 UTC
Interesting words for thought Bataav.

We've shared several conversations at gatherings over the years however it seems each time we step away from those venues our conversations are lost in memory until the next year.

I look forward to more of your thoughts being shared here in future.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security

Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#19 - 2016-10-03 17:27:06 UTC

John Revenent wrote:
Julianus Soter wrote:
Well, if your intentions are for peaceful collaboration and growth between our peoples, Bataav, then I certainly welcome your contributions here, and as a Delegate to the Villore Assembly. I look forward to talking with you soon.

Regarding your message of "separatism", I feel you will find the situation similar to attempting to cut off your own arm or leg, a futile and harmful endeavor. There is so much to be accomplished together, than apart. Please contact me if you wish to discuss this further.

Regards,

Soter


All three of us know just how open you are to peaceful talks. They usually involve holding a pistol to your opposition's head while they are forced to kneel before you. Your actions years ago will not be easily forgotten.

As always the Intaki Liberation Front has my support, I'll continue to be at their disposal.



Mister Revenent, it was good to see you this weekend during the Alliance Tournament. Your team performed honorably, though I do apologize for the destruction of your ship. It was a competition, after all.

Those that truly know me understand that collaboration and peaceful negotiation are as agreeable to me as to any other capsuleer. Many have refused diplomacy in the past. I hope that we can move past such unfortunate history.

Regarding Bataav, it was a pleasure to meet him at Dam Torsad during the Imperial Trials earlier this year. I am certain that now, more than any time in the past, chance for discussion blooms anew.

Regards,

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#20 - 2016-10-03 20:20:40 UTC
Julianus Soter wrote:

Those that truly know me understand that collaboration and peaceful negotiation are as agreeable to me as to any other capsuleer. Many have refused diplomacy in the past. I hope that we can move past such unfortunate history.


Right. You're not fooling anyone.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

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