Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Seems that if there's no consequence for people placing orders that fail because the lack the funds, yet the information is withheld about who it is, if this game is about PVP and carebears have to accept risk when they undock those doing margin scams have absolutely no risk whatsoever.

1. If they can't fund something then it's a no go on the market buy.

2. At the very least it should cause them to be highlighted when the place their orders because lack of the funds for the items.

3. It should cause them to have loss in reputation with those NPC's who's market they are placing orders, fall low enough and you have to pay heafty fee's to use the markets of the faction in question.

To have absolutely nothing happen seems unbalanced when I have to accept the risk when I undock, everyone pays a price for doing things in game, everyone except margin scammers, we are issued warning about acceptance of certain contracts such as station may be inaccessible etc, I'm not worried about the isk I lost but if there's no consequence for the scammer seems a bit tard for others to brow beat carebears carebearing it up in high sec.

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Lesson learned.

Your capacitor is empty.

When you become a big time trader and don't have the capital necessary to keep feeding the machine you'll be singing a different tune.

Margin skills are as necessary as paying attention and thinking for yourself. There's nothing to fix.

I've been called everything under the sun, I've had injustice thrown my way, I'd of given up long ago if I had not accepted the fact that most people are just hotdogs, the other day you were going back and forth with that guy in local in Osmon when he was just being an idiot, why keep on fighting his non-sence, ok I offended you, sorry, seriously sorry.

Flagging someone because they use the margin trading skill is an overreaction, I would hazard a guess that most traders use the mechanic and that many couldn't cover all their buy orders if they filled at once, because their isk is tied up in stock. When used as intended it allows people to leverage their isk efficiently when trading multiple items and allows them to use turnover to cover any potential shortfalls.

With that in mind, how would the system differentiate between the use of the margin trading skill for legitimate trading and the use of the margin trading skill to clean out the wallet of a mook and land them with some overpriced crap?

I've been caught out by it in the past, I learnt from the experience and now follow the philosophy of caveat emptor in that I research "high value" items before I purchase them.

As the old adages say "if it sounds too good to be true, it's a scam" and "there's one born every minute".

On a side note, Danika's capacitor may well have been empty, however your tears seem to have made it overflow.

There is no way to programmatically determine when the margin skill is being used for nefarious purposes. So to answer your question, no.

Well, I just don't worry about folk like that, most of the time they can't be fixed.

If you want to know who's behind most of the scams, its Marmite alts most of them. Just go to Jita and begin annoy the scammers and suddenly Marmite will declare war upon Your corp

For quite a while I thought of doing things to others, but same as in real life, for everyone you remove 10 others will take it's place, the story of tree swingers, doesn't matter what you try to express to them or understand them, their brains just don't assimilate reality, I can accept that the things I would like to see happen in this game won't because others don't want it, I may believe I'm brilliant but if you are getting more no's then yes I tend to evaluate what it was I was wanting and see it from another's point of view, I can accept it makes logical sense to me and not others, this is a thing that will help me make better decisions on the whole.