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Why so drake?
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Guffz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-17 23:37:36 UTC
No, but seriously... It seems that all the corps that say "hey you want to learn the aspects of pvp? throw an app in!", require that you be able to fly a drake in order to do their smallgang/fleet roams after you've initially talked to a recruiter about joining.

I fly Amarr ships. I use lasers. I like what I'm training. I have the ability to use t2 light drones. So how am I actually able to learn the fundamentals of what I want to fly while doing lowsec roams, when the only thing people want are drakes.

Excuse me for being a noob, and being ignorant. I just feel like in order to do anything that i want to do in this game (pvp/pirating/anythingliketheaforementioned), and to do it in small fleets, I have to be pigeonholed into going straight up drake training.

Sure it's an amazing ship, but it's not what I'm interested in flying, and therefore shouldn't feel like I'm forced to train to fly it in order to join a corp.

Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places? I've only just been browsing the recruitment forums, and every so often browsing the in game corp search.

Excuse the noob nerd rage,

Good day fellow capsuleers!
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-01-17 23:56:16 UTC
You're probably just not looking in the right places. And they're probably just trying to look for pilots they can give general advice to and not worry about fleet comp. It's really easy to say "All the noobs in Drakes as raw DPS support" just as a baseline to work from. It's just a ship that works well enough to be a baseline and doesn't need a lot of SP to get into.
gfldex
#3 - 2012-01-18 00:49:08 UTC
The answer to your question is: Scimitar.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-01-18 01:11:59 UTC
Drake is flavor of the month, and many corps are full of baddies that only ever fly FotM. There are plenty of corps that will take you, just keep looking.

Drake is getting nerfed according to the recent CSM minutes, though.
Dyaven
#5 - 2012-01-18 01:56:02 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Drake is flavor of the month, and many corps are full of baddies that only ever fly FotM. There are plenty of corps that will take you, just keep looking.

Drake is getting nerfed according to the recent CSM minutes, though.


Try flavor of the decade. Drakes have pretty much been FotM since they were introduced to the game.
Hoskoal Ricks
#6 - 2012-01-18 04:56:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Hoskoal Ricks
Drakes were the answer to hacs which were the answer to rr bs.

In other words, the drake is a metagame icon. It's cheap, easy to train for, and able to push expensive t2 cruisers off the field and unlike their turret-bearing counterparts it can fit a large enough tank that throwing in logistics spam (the latest and greatest craze) makes them somewhat viable against their counter (battleships) if you bring enough drakes. Of course, the same could be said of a few other bc's, but then we come back to easy to train for.

The simplest answer is that it's a panacea for easy pve content. You can rat in a drake in any nullsec region with ease where (for example) a harbinger will struggle with em resistant rats like angels. Tell a newbie to skill into a drake and he can both earn and learn quickly. Tell him to skill into a harbinger and he'll have to be careful about where he goes before he can earn, although the learning bit will be that much more informative given that player skill increases the effectiveness of turrets.

Of course, the final word is the latest CSM minutes suggest the drake's almighty tanking bonus will be gone some time soon. Hopefully that will convince the newb-leaders everywhere to introduce new players to a better race than caldari and it's one-ship-wonders.

tl;dr: You're on the right track with amarr and lasers. They are a superior choice in the long run. Stick with it and remember the idiots who told you to fly a drake. Then when you have the ability, pod every last one of them after emptying their corp of all isk and assets.
Liam Mirren
#7 - 2012-01-18 06:37:59 UTC
There's many explanations, some have merit while others don't.


Good reasons to ask your members to fly a drake:

- they're very easy to use, both SP and experience wise so for a starter they're great
- they have massive tanks and very good range making them versatile
- at least you'll know that everyone shield tanks, meaning gang links and shield RR will work well in that fleet


bad reasons to ask your members to fly a drake:

- you're not really that smart and don't actually understand EVE too well, so all you do is follow memes and thus you tell your members "Drake>everything"
- You're not interested (or actually you're incapable) in teaching your members about strategies and tactics, so you'll just keep it simple
- you're an idiot

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.