Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Looking at the OP's killboard is... painful.

OP, losing the same ship again and again and again 2 to 4 time/day in similar situations should enlighten you that you are doing something wrong. Repetition upon repetition in similar situations and hoping for different results is one definition of madness, get out of that loop before it is too late.

Also, maybe you should train up your Cloak/MWD skill.

Or stop trying to sccop wrecks and corpse on gates in Black Rise.

Or stop doing exploration in Black Rise altogether. There are quieter places.

Edit: 1st on p.2

OP, do you honestly believe anyone who actually PVPs fits stabs while doing so?

Aren't the scanres/lock range penalties enough to show you the things are not meant for combat ships?

Can i just point out you used the word "Fair" in EVE OP?

Counting the Nanoseconds

oi eve is fair


we all start off with the same isk and the same sp

You completely ignored his points and manufactured one of your own (almost like your brain is fitted with a full rack of argument core stabilizers). If you aren't paying attention, that's on you. Watch local. Watch D-Scan. You'll see them coming, and be gone before they even get out of warp.

A good example of pvp is to watch a documentary on a cheetah. It sneaks up close, then springs out and rapidly tackles prey. If they see it, they run away too early and it cannot catch up unless one of the gazelle really messes up (looking at you, 1600mm baby gazelle).

Tools already exist for you to avoid fights. Being able to moonwalk out of a fight because you want to watch netflix rather than pay attention would be intensely boring for anyone who actually plays Eve.

10/10 Troll. Would read again.

You guys have made so many assumptions and ran down so many tangents that have nothing to do with the OP that I have no interest in even replying to most of them.

For everyone who looks at my zkillboard and assumes Im horrible at pvp, use a little common sense and figure out for yourself that people dont pvp with salvagers. This is obviously an isk making alt. And I do make a ton of it. In comparison, the ship losses are a dime a dozen to me.

As far as this being a troll post, that's laughable. Not everything in the game is pvp. If I wish to beef a ship up with stabilization, it should be effective at not getting disrupted by anything and everything when 1v1 against another ship in the same class. Of course it will severely sacrifice other abilities and even sacrifice the ability to do major damage, but that option should be there for those who do PL, Salvage, etc.

I don't know why so many people are against this. Most people fly in small gangs so the disrupt from two ships can still easily overpower the stabilization of one ship. Actually, I do understand why so many people are against this - for those of you who suck at life and pvp, you have decided to target defenseless t1 transports and salvaging peeps to make yourself feel better because a real pvp fight is to scary for you. All you suckage people are really doing is pushing people out of low sec and even the game. I dont mind flying into a gatecamp and getting torn to shreds, thats part of the game. If ten ships are out to get you, no amount of stabilization is going to help. I should however be able to counter any single modules disrupt if I choose to fit my ship that way.

Disrupt gets every tool in the shed. Warp disrupt +1, +2, +3, warp field generators, bubbles, maulus multiplier, etc. And the only thing to counter all of this is +1 stabilization that severely penalizes other ship abilities and targeting range.

I would love to see a new style of ship that gets bonuses to salvaging, cargo space, and stabilization.

Ninja Loot for life.
#SwoopSalvage

You know for ships with higer than +1 Base warp stability like capitals, DST's, and supercapitals.
And then you have the non-pvp fit Stabbed ships which also need to be caught. Sure you COULD just bring a hictor, but there are situations where a hictor cant be used which must be accounted for as well.

Yes. Because your capital should not be flying without support.