EVE New Citizens Q&A

PVE fights are easy because:

- the AI is predictable and simple
- sites like EVE Survival will give you the step-by-step spoilers on how to win
- most missions do not have warp disruption, so you're free to warp away to recharge, and come back to shoot some more

So, fitting your ship to win against the NPC's is kinda like the newbie levels of learning how to do combat in EVE. Mostly, though, you're learning the user interface, not actual PVP tactics. Against players, the fights are over much faster, and the tactics use the full spectrum of max damage, electronic jamming, remote repairs, etc.

Pretty good responses to various feedbacks here actually, so kudos to the OP. ;)

I think the best solution for everyone is to probably have many configurable possibilities, just like 'invert Y-Axis' type of things, being able to 'swap' right/left mouse clicks, various hot keys, etc, etc.

Having said that, when you look at the short cuts tab there are already many many options for you to configure the short cuts. Some functions you mentioned are not provided, and those probably could be something that CCP could look into, but it's also worth looking into different configurable options already available.

Also, 'tab through' targets is not as straight forward as it sounds - there are some elements that's deeply tied to the game mechanics. For example, people can configure overviews in so many ways (there are people who even sell their custom made overviews), that 'tab through' would offer completely different target selection function depending on how people have configured the overview, and in some ways, it could make it 'too convenient' in filtering out certain targets in the over view & selecting the desired target very quickly.

As much of a mess the overview and target selection can be, and sure the interface could be improved, but in a massive fleet battle with so many things happening everywhere with hundreds (or even thousands) of ships in varying distances, speed, ship types, etc, 'calling the right target' is a genuine FC skill, someone who has experience and ability to make sense of all that mess and call the right choice that swings the fight.


Not an example you mentioned, but let's say CCP made a new function that you could decide to 'orbit' in desired shape/axis/etc. That would be super handy for everyone and objectively would be a good interface option, but the way things are now and the way current orbit is kinda stupid at times is what makes 'manual piloting skill' something of an art.

I think OP takes the feedback from others well and all was said with good intentions to offer fresh perspectives to CCP, which is good as we all want to increase the new player retention.

But when you think outside of missioning/PVE, 'convenience' could be something not always desirable, considering that people with high experience (not SP, actual piloting experience) and skills are well rewarded in this game, so any interface/convenience balances have to be taken into consideration together with the PVP factors (just as everything else is in EVE heh). It's a lot more complicated issue than just making something more intuitive/convenient from interface perspective.

Oh yes, although now there are many more kinds of NPCs like sleepers that are both smarter and more dangerous.

But this is why a PVE fitted ship has no business fighting a PVP fitted ship. If my BC were PVP fitted, and equal skils, My BC should have won, or at least would have had a positive chance.

The biggest difference between a PvE ship vs PvP, is a PvE ship is fitted to tank and deal a large amount of damage distributed over a long amount of time. PVP ships will deal less damage, but apply it in a much shorter time frame. (burst or Alpha damage being king in PVP.) Which quickly overloads active tanks for the most part, especially if the tank were optimized for PvE.

A pvp ship can PvE, just not optimally. But a PvE ship should run away on principle.

That's why in null, you you are ratting in a BS and a hostile frigate shows up, you automatically dock up. Not only will you be a sitting duck to that frigate, but his friends are only a few second behind and if the frigate can land a point on you, your ship is toast.

Unfortunately, not only is the link to Unfucking Your Overview dead, but SaraShawa is all but dead as well. It hasn't been updated since April and Oh Takashawa doesn't seem to be coming back to the game any time soon. This one has taken up where SaraShawa left off, updating and making improvements on the old pack. Also, though slightly dated, I feel the EVE University Overview Guide is also an important resource.

Wierd, I tested both before posting, Thanks for the heads up, and Thanks to RKG for the quick fix.