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What you need to do, CCP.
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Dantes Wolf
Interstellar Corporation of Universal Management
#1 - 2016-09-28 09:36:29 UTC
This is gonna hurt, but I think we're at the junction where you need to consider it, CCP.

Active members of EVE are falling like a piano from the 7th floor, and, before long, this effect will cause a cataclysm where only the most bitter vets will be left, if any.

You need to do a lot of stuff to change this, but of all the options you have, these two are, in my views, the most important:

Arrow You need to provide a lot more end-game options for the senior-vets: DED-Sites 10-20/10-15, that can only be handled in capitals, solo, and, for the higher DED-editions; Only capable in RR'ed multiple caps/sub-caps teams. Same goes for 0.0/WH anomalies: make them harder, and more rewarding. - people NEEDS something to do with their end-game options, not just sit in a cap, being bored silly; challenges and excitement: you need to give it to us.

And, which is the harder part:

Arrow You need to make the playerbase bloom. The only way I see that, is by removing the monthly payment, or, alternatively, reduce price massively. - I know it'll hurt, a lot, but I understand, that you've got other MMO's brewing, and fact is, EVE is a serious senior, in a world with hundreds of competative MMO's (many of which has already taken the step and become FFA).

You need, in respect for your creation, EVE, to make her become fresh again; you need to consider the option of letting her bloom and breathe, by letting in hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of new players in here: make her Free For All, and make what money you can from PLEX-sales, and, with it, let us and EVE breathe and bloom again.

With regards

Dantes

"Before you diagnose yourself with low selfesteem and depression, you should first make sure, that you are not just, in fact, surrounded by assholes".
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#2 - 2016-09-28 09:47:29 UTC
why do you feel the game needs to got 100% f2p? you know not everyone wants a crappy game full of 12 year olds.

make your own content, there is already stuff to with caps.

these ideas pop up quite often this isnt an original idea and imo its just terrible.

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Galinius Valgani
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-09-28 09:48:11 UTC
Dantes Wolf wrote:


And, which is the harder part:

Arrow You need to make the playerbase bloom. The only way I see that, is by removing the monthly payment, or, alternatively, reduce price massively. - I know it'll hurt, a lot, but I understand, that you've got other MMO's brewing, and fact is, EVE is a serious senior, in a world with hundreds of competative MMO's (many of which has already taken the step and become FFA).


Dantes


They introduce Alpha Clones in November.
Free2Play is coming

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/

Your other request could be fullfilled by making Nullsec Incursions more rewarding.
They are avoided due to being PVP target when forming a bling fit fleet.
I think more PVE in Nullsec which requires a fleet will only be used by big alliances which are kind of safe in their territory.
I do not know if this is a good solution...
Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#4 - 2016-09-28 10:33:14 UTC
Dantes Wolf wrote:
challenges and excitement: you need to give it to us.


You're missing the point.
CCP can neither challenge nor excite us.

They thave wisely left that up to us.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2016-09-28 14:59:58 UTC
... how do capitals = end game

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-09-28 15:33:24 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
... how do capitals = end game


Yeah, I'm confused by the fact that anyone who has been here as long as the OP could still labor under the delusion that big ships are the equivalent of "end game content". That's a misconception you usually see coming out of trial accounts, not 2009 chars.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2016-09-28 15:38:18 UTC
could be he made the acc back then but only recently started playing

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Cade Windstalker
#8 - 2016-09-28 15:40:03 UTC
OP, you need to consider the idea that you might be dead wrong about the economics of this game and your doom and gloom predictions, and that you do not, in fact, know more about designing and running a game than the people who do it for a living...
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2016-09-28 18:33:22 UTC
Hi, I'm fairly sure I count as one of the senior vets you're talking about. (Oldest character is an '06, Dani, my main, is an '09).

I don't think capital ratting is an interesting idea, nor an endgame one. It's been an everyday part of nullsec life for years, and while I've never done WH stuff myself, I understand those guys do/did a lot of it too.

It's still just ratting, whatever way you slice it, and EVE's PvE is uniformly terrible. It's not endgame content, it's cash generation to find the parts of the game that are actually fun.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-09-28 23:31:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Op, ccp has no cash cow on the side to make this true f2p.


Cosmetics are limited. I know from other games cosmetics go from mild to wild real fast. talking you look nothing like you did before. In eve, a raven will always look like a raven. Same ship, different paint job.

For eve to go this route, they'd have to do something freaky. Freaky Idea 1: I like the look of rokh over raven and even scoprion. I have tried and failed to make a pve rokh that is effective as other pve options. If some way to make raven look like rokh....and keep raven (or even better scorpion options, ie Navy or rattler) stats and abilities .....I'd cough up some cash in rl. Looks like a rokh, buts its a scorpion or raven variant performance wise....shut up and take my money. this would never happen. Remember ccp pulled the bug that let skins go wherever the hell you wanted them too.




They can't do option 2 seen for "free" game, p2w. the special edition ship only bought online. Here enters a difficult problem. How to not have some player who can throw down $50 roll stomp non payers. But have that $50 ship do something besides look pretty.

Best I have seen this implemented is WoT. Where the gold tanks are not OP per se. With skill and ability on your part, and the wallet warrior sucking ass game play wise, the wallet warrior tanks die just as easy as general release "free" tanks.

In WoT these sold well because they bypassed leveling up. You could get that Lowe (heavy tank) day 1 if so desired and threw down the cash. YOu skipped SP grinding up the tiers In WoT. Eve can't do this...."great" ship, low sp support skills....boom.

Other problem is in eve loss is permanent. Yay...you spent $50 for a ship that is now dead and gone. No one would buy this. Eve can't do the self regenerating ship. $50 for a say special rattlesnake that will always respawn on blow up, bit too nice a deal there.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#11 - 2016-09-29 00:28:01 UTC
Citation needed on active player numbers....
All the activity metrics are fairly stable or even increased.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-09-29 00:54:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Citation needed on active player numbers....
All the activity metrics are fairly stable or even increased.



Probably in slow/dead space. My area is empty...so eve must be dying mentality.

My area used to be slow/dead, which I like tbh. Local shot up a lot of late for whatever reason(s). How eve goes, people migrate around. Get a feel for the new immigrants and either stay or go find some peace and quiet elsewhere lol.