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927 Combat Roam, Ships & Ordnance Supplied!

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Matar Ronin
#121 - 2016-09-26 10:16:10 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Nick Bete wrote:
I didn't see anyone threatening Shutaq's family. Please point out where in this thread that happened and I'll certainly admit my fault

Also, if Shutaq felt slighted then fine, take the matter up with the pilot who did the deed. Why attack the entire Matari race in such an insulting manner? No, make all the excuses you like, his words were those of a bigot plain and simple.


It's widely understood that the immediate effect of ripping all the Minmatar slaves out of the Empire in the short term would the complete and total economic, cultural and industrial collapse of BOTH the Republic and the Empire.

The apologists who first spun this yarn of mutual destruction by way of the abolition of slavery are merely wrong. The Republic is resilient. If the slavery cult collapses into chaos, so be it, and quite well deserved.

There is simply no economic model that anyone can point to or quote that supports the ridiculous notion that the Republic could not support the influx of skilled people. It is simply a tale told to scare the naive into being afraid of change.

Lets look at how things that are confounded by the facts are spun to mean something else exactly the opposite.

Fact: Barbarians with advanced weapons attack without warning and then enslave a peaceful people for centuries.
Spin: Today we call the barbarians civilized and pretend the advanced peaceful space faring people they enslaved are primitive warmongers because they still yearn for the freedom all the rest of the New Eden Cluster enjoys.

The military prowess of the current Republic is considered not capable of waging successful war against the slavery cult.

Fact: In recent history Matari forces have liberated and successfully held planets that had been held for centuries by the barbarian slavery cultists.
Spin: Well the slavery cultists didn't want those planets anymore anyway and the Elder Fleet was all but crushed by the one shot wonder weapon that has never seen action again.

The barbarian slavery cultists are flying on past laurels, in every major engagement in recent history they have been clearly beaten and taken either major losses in ships or losses in territory or both.

Without the state to support them they fear the wrath of the Matari.

The once powerful barbarian slavery cultists are in their twilight, with the loss of territory, prestige, and influence increasing they even had their so called divine leader assassinated, while piloting their most powerful class of warship, in front of their impotent navy that is stuffed full of too many admirals and lords and not enough competent fighters.

They talk a good game when the people they face are peaceful or drug addicted slaves, but give those people weapons to fight back with and the soft weak lazy nature of the holders, a class to afraid to work for themselves, takes over and the incompetence that is the result of their centuries on inbreeding comes to the fore. They might have been invading barbarian warriors in the past, but today they are just the watered down weak willed garrison inbred drooling descendants that have never reclaimed anything beyond the deposit from empty beverage containers. They are high in numbers and arrogance, but low in skill and effectiveness.


‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#122 - 2016-09-26 11:23:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
I will raise just one objection for the minute, and that is your assertion the Eldar Fleet, Republic, whomever, 'liberated' a bunch of planets. I think if you bother to look up the maps of the old Minmatar Empire you'll see large swaths of Republic held Hisec, and the currently occupied lowsec systems, were never colonised by the Matar and therefore we can only conclude the correct term is annexed, since your people were never on those planets under their own steam to begin with. Hard to liberate a planet that had nothing to do with you.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2016-09-26 11:29:38 UTC
Have you completely forgotten what happened that time the Amarr Empire emancipated all the 9th generation slaves?

In case you need a refresher, a large proportion of them went to the Republic and triggered an ideological and socio-economical clusterfrak. The Republic was not prepared for such an incursion. No infrastructure and programmes were in place to process all these newly emancipated Matari, many of whom still carried the ideologies of their former homes and many of whom were retching under the effects of the Vitoxin which the Republic had no answer for (especially considering that for some reason all that Insorum used during the Elder War just went 'poof'). They crossed the border into a fervently anti-Amarr swath of territory which still had a still-being-addressed employment issue.

Last thing the Republic needs is another one of these mass emancipation, especially now that the Republic is still recovering from that stunt and is still in the process of putting down the policies and infrastructure needed to pursue prosperity.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Matar Ronin
#124 - 2016-09-26 17:54:52 UTC
In the possible event that a Drifter battle fleet seeks to disrupt and attack the planned public activities within the boundaries still controlled by the evil slavery cultists and attempt to murder human crews in the naval vessels of the slavery cultists, the freedom loving capsuleer pilots participating in the 927 Roam will rally to the side of the humans and fight and die to stop the Drifter aggression.

Anyone who truly stands for the abolition of inhumane human slavery will not trade deviant human slavers for non-human entities who, thus far, demonstrate even less regard for humanity and human life.

Granted the slavery cultists are arguably the lowest example of human life in the New Eden Cluster, but they are human.

None of us can say that with absolute confidence about the Drifters.

Humans must be protected and allowed to flourish in the New Eden Cluster, the sins of the slavery cultists will recede as their power wanes, they are human beings trapped in a horrid cult that pretends to be both religion and culture.

Even when anger and the passion of combat encourages revenge we must be better than that, and remember they are still human beings, and can be one day brought back into the ranks of civilized human decency.

Freedom, self determination, justice, and liberty are HUMAN RIGHTS, and I fight to see them applied to and protected for all humans in the New Eden Cluster, both current friends or current foes alike.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#125 - 2016-09-26 17:59:20 UTC
Something tells me that your fleet will be utterly useless should such an event occur a second time. Also, it's doubtful the drifters will attempt the same trick twice.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Matar Ronin
#126 - 2016-09-27 10:12:42 UTC
A Drifter battleship fleet of growing numbers, the largest we have seen in Anoikis, is indeed on the move.

Is it a precursor to a major hostile action in the New Eden Cluster?
Being unable to track them when they jump we can not say for sure.
We have been lucky enough to have large segments of the fleet jump away from one cloaked scout into a system where we had another scout positioned who witnessed them joining up with other Drifter battleships that jumped into the system before then jumping away from our scouts.

We can say for sure in the months we have been in Anoikis covertly observing there movements this is the most organized widespread synchronized activity we have ever seen taking place, and it is taking place in several systems at the same time.

Clearly the Drifters are up to something big, what it is we can not at this time, with reasonable accuracy, predict.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#127 - 2016-09-27 11:02:09 UTC
If these Drifters do show up and Mr Ronin decides to have a go shooting them, well.. It'd be rude of me to stop him.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Arrendis
TK Corp
#128 - 2016-09-27 17:49:45 UTC
Which systems? Have your scouts produced any hard counts or gotten photographic evidence from which to build a count?
Matar Ronin
#129 - 2016-09-27 18:19:32 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Which systems? Have your scouts produced any hard counts or gotten photographic evidence from which to build a count?
Buzz off little bee, go troll someone else for the next year. Your dullness is pitiful. You are dismissed and soon blocked if you persist. Now begone with your childish annoyance!Big smile

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#130 - 2016-09-27 18:29:04 UTC
Ronin, I know you like to think that I care enough to troll you, but that was a legitimate question. You're reporting drifter movements in Anoikis. The Sanmatar is here in Amarr. If you have actionable intelligence, it will help to protect him, but only if you actually tell people.

Stop being such a douche over having your nonsense called out.

And take down that silly contract of long-limbed roe. I promise, nobody wants your meat.
Felise Selunix
Keyholder Investment Group
#131 - 2016-09-27 18:38:08 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Which systems? Have your scouts produced any hard counts or gotten photographic evidence from which to build a count?
Buzz off little bee, go troll someone else for the next year. Your dullness is pitiful. You are dismissed and soon blocked if you persist. Now begone with your childish annoyance!Big smile


So that means he hasn't scouted anything.

On that subject though, it would be pretty awesome if someone could do some real scouting of the type that Ronin is fantasizing about. Although I can't imagine that the Drifters would be that obtuse about a large scale movement such as this. But I think if you had a fleet with real covert scouting experience, they may actually learn some real information.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#132 - 2016-09-27 21:01:48 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Ronin, I know you like to think that I care enough to troll you, but that was a legitimate question. You're reporting drifter movements in Anoikis. The Sanmatar is here in Amarr. If you have actionable intelligence, it will help to protect him, but only if you actually tell people.

Stop being such a douche over having your nonsense called out.

And take down that silly contract of long-limbed roe. I promise, nobody wants your meat.

Does he know what actionable intelligence is?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#133 - 2016-09-27 21:06:11 UTC
I have to believe he's not the utter buffoon he presents himself to be. Though obviously, whatever Drifter movements may have been seen in Anoikis had nothing to do with the Coronation, he knew enough to know that reporting those movements would get reactions.
Matar Ronin
#134 - 2016-09-28 05:24:24 UTC
Despite the constant effort at self promotion by the civilian trolls of IGS, none are in any position to handle "actionable intelligence" because there is no action they can then take.

Imaginary self importance aside, honey, step away from the over blown ego and just walk away.

Your best bet is to try and heal the wounds suffered by your alliance when they followed your "actionable intelligence" and got their behinds kicked in "World War Flee!".

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#135 - 2016-09-28 05:32:06 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
Your best bet is to try and heal the wounds suffered by your alliance when they followed your "actionable intelligence" and got their behinds kicked in "World War Flee!".


Eh, guess you win, Tyrel.
Matar Ronin
#136 - 2016-09-28 05:36:09 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Ronin, I know you like to think that I care enough to troll you, but that was a legitimate question. You're reporting drifter movements in Anoikis. The Sanmatar is here in Amarr. If you have actionable intelligence, it will help to protect him, but only if you actually tell people.

Stop being such a douche over having your nonsense called out.

And take down that silly contract of long-limbed roe. I promise, nobody wants your meat.

Does he know what actionable intelligence is?
Tyrel & Arrendis it is so cute when groupies dress like their idol.

Granted tank tops are way out of fashion, but I have to know, which one of you is the cross dresser?

The periwinkle pilot, or the angry goon girl?

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#137 - 2016-09-28 05:41:07 UTC
Maybe they just like showing off their arm muscles.

Why are you fashion-policing them ? Why do you oppress them so ? Who gave you the right to body-shame them ?

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#138 - 2016-09-28 06:04:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Matar Ronin wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Ronin, I know you like to think that I care enough to troll you, but that was a legitimate question. You're reporting drifter movements in Anoikis. The Sanmatar is here in Amarr. If you have actionable intelligence, it will help to protect him, but only if you actually tell people.

Stop being such a douche over having your nonsense called out.

And take down that silly contract of long-limbed roe. I promise, nobody wants your meat.

Does he know what actionable intelligence is?
Tyrel & Arrendis it is so cute when groupies dress like their idol.

Granted tank tops are way out of fashion, but I have to know, which one of you is the cross dresser?

The periwinkle pilot, or the angry goon girl?


Every single time you open your mouth you act less and less like a proper Brutor and more and more like a low-level 'Cartel' punk. Bravado does not win battles. 30 ships will not defeat the Empire (did you even check our ship designs before you mouth that off?). You keep calling the Amarrians 'slavery cultists' instead of plain Amarr (there is no slavery cult in Amarr when the official stance of the entire religion is Reclaiming, either by conversion or slavery, is their divine mission. It's not a cult, it's their bloody religion!). You habitually demonise your enemies, instead of trying to really get to know exactly what you are dealing with and plan accordingly.

You also strawman any time you can't win an argument.

Moreoever, you are completely blind to the actual situation inside the Republic and are completely fixated on the slavery angle, never mind that you do not actually help any cause by your actions. Do you really even know what the Minmatar Republic needs right now? Do you really care about the Minmatar people, or are you really just in it for the sake of violence and vengeance?

Do you even know your people and your cultural heritage?

You sicken me. Especially when everything you had said so far sounds way too similar to what the resident Caldari bigot says all the time. Just change the terms around.

The only consolation is that you receive no support whatsover from the Republic Fleet and the only sanctioned operations you can perform is out in the 'warzone' that ultimately means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Matar Ronin
#139 - 2016-09-28 06:26:54 UTC
My deep heart felt thanks to the pilots and crews of the 927 Combat Roam.

Job well done!

Today we started on the road to mapping the connection patterns of the unidentified wormholes Drifters use to access all parts of the New Eden Cluster. When the first wormhole collapsed behind us we had no way to know where or even when the next opening would occur.

That is why Drake Ashigaru Alliance was/is willing to pay for all the ships put into harms way on our Combat Roams. Over the next few months we hope to map the locations and timing patterns of the unidentified wormholes, and the numbers and strength of the Drifter forces using them.

Again to the intrepid capsuleer pilots and their fearless crews who participated in the 927 Combat Roam, a good number of whom are still deep in Drifter Anoikis, well done!

To anyone else reading this, stay tuned.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#140 - 2016-09-28 06:42:14 UTC
So you went on a roam to explore about, and presumably intended to fight, Drifters. Why all the hush hush and secrecy from the start? Had you been open about your target and intentions I might have even gently encouraged (read, bullied) several compatriots to take part to fight against a common enemy.

Instead you made a post that eluded to secret form ups, combat ships and used an aggresive rhetoric against anyone suggesting it was an attempt against the Empire. You made no effort to scale down that position, and in the process debated (read: shouted at like a man child) against all and sundry in a manner that seems to have embarrassed a lot of serious supporters of the Republic and the Minmatar at large.

So, did you have a change of plan due to the presence of the Sanmatar at the ceremony, or were you deliberatly handy capping yourself for the sake of notorioty on a forum not many people take serious anymore?

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"