EVE General Discussion

Sure people can experiment with alpha's, and I don't mind the not being chained part. Its just that there IS (Not maybe) people out there ready to abuse it.

Oh and FYI all those things put in the thread I chose not to post in, I have seen very little response to them because of the amount of comments about the change. Kind of feels to me like CCP want to drown out the negative concerns by getting all the positive ones to outweigh them.

I know what you mean, I hope it is done right. This was just a realisation me and a few alliance buddies had. Yeah I'm probably thinking too much of it. But at the end of the day I want to see this done right, Because a lot of us fear it being done wrong and driving away some of the decent people who play the game. Only for them to be replaced by douchebags and those out to ruin a great community. I think that's probably my main fear with the alpha aspect, I've seen F2P communities before they're not good.

A few weeks ago I was in a game on LOL and something kept throwing out Neo-Nazi comments, I'd already had 3 games of it. Reports felt like they were doing crap but its the best you can do. In that case I just quit and decided I'd rather take a 2 week suspension for leaving matches rather than put up with that kind of crap.

That's what I see people doing here if that kind of language takes mainstream hold, but they won't come back

Yeah sure there are already alliances out there pushing it, but its not there at every turn, its not in your face every moment of play.

If this would lead to an increase in ganking it might very well be intended by CCP since earlier studies have shown that players who get blown up early on in their EVE 'career' often choose to keep playing while players who grind PVE for a month without much meaningful player interaction quit.

The neo-Nazi type issue will NEVER be an issue. CCP will squash that so fast itll make the guys head spin as he and all his alts, alpha or omegas, get the heaviest banhammer known to the viking world thrown at them.

The rest of the abuse of accounts is well documented in other threads. But in the end it will only create a range of new prices and new supply/demand to resettle at that CCP can tweak over the long term and really doesnt change much tbh as most major or even minor rebalances create such new supply/demand curves already.

As for what it SHOULD bring in? Thats easy. Anyone that likes Eve, has played it and wants to but cant afford it but enjoys the gameplay enough to keep an account. Then if you make isk further than the alphas skills you can buy injectors to add skills that arent a part of an alpha that if you WISH to or have spare isk or dollars sub and then use. It means you wont be shut out anymore if you have RL shitfests going on and you need the RL cash on something else or if you get bored of the game and want to play something else you dont have to ever stop completely anymore youll still have access to the game and game play.

So things like unsubbing accounts to take breaks wont be needed. You can just not pay for it and feel the sunk cost fallacy of the $$ or time spent plexing being "ugh" in nature for what you get out of the game atm.

For CCP it will mean WAY less of a yoyo in subs as people get bored, need breaks, go GRRRCCP!!! or whatever and unsub. As now these people can still log in every now and again and go do things without worrying about making that plex isk or dropping that cash. You can still fleet up, do most Eve activities of all sorts and still be a productive member of any group or team or even solo without that pressure. But you know that there are benefits to omega clones and its now your CHOICE. Its not all or nothing, its all or something at least. And THAT is a smart move by CCP for actual in space numbers.

For some time Alphas are not different from new toons. So corps that accept noobs will have no problems accepting Alphas. IMHO nobody will stay a long time as an alpha when he hits the skill limit. You either sub or quit. The nice thing with Alphas is, that at this time they've got enough experience and skillpoints to Plex an account. I don't imagine alphas as a playing "class" but as a prolonged test phase. If Eve hooks you, you are in, if not you are out. The limits are that hard, that staying for a longer time as an alpha when you can't progress any more will be extremely frustrating and thats what CCP is counting on.

BTW: the mentioned problems will not be problems of Alphas but on the sociopathic behavior of us, the subscribed players. Noobs don't know enough to be a real annoyance apart from shittalk, which a lot of vet are experts in, and naming, which CCP will quickly take care of.

In terms of mass shitposting accounts, I think we've already been though this to some extent with free Dust 514 accounts. People survived (except for the shut down). It is fun reviewing the **** dust bunnies said in game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCRLm-VVyB0

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxKiN7Kt1Eh2bER5Z3FQNTAwYUU

In terms of corralling in-game and forum behavior there's certainly some improvements that can be made to moderation. I'm curious how the Valkyrie forum community is fairing with Discourse as a community moderation tool

Nothing will damage this community more than it being over run by people with nothing invested in it.