EVE General Discussion

Yes by people like you wanting to nerf the very thing that made it so successful, PvP....including PvP in HS.

You know when I first joined there was nothing like CODE. Sure groups of people would gank freighters, but it was far more desultory than now. You could toss 600 million in your freighter set desto and undock and click autopilot. Now....you'd be an idiot to do that. Why? Because HS content has been nerfed into the dirt so all you got is large organized groups providing fun activities...like CODE. who gank freighters and will even do it for ransoms or just the ***** and giggles (although the latter is rare given the plethora of over stuffed freighters). With wardecs you could see 2, 3, 4, etc. war dec corps focusing on just one corp or alliance in HS. Not anymore.

So you are half right...but the root of the problem are players like you. Players who wanted to nerf freighter ganking to "balance it on risk". You dimbulbs don't even understand risk preference vs. reward. Not at all. You heard the term risk aversion and you use it like you know what it means, but quite clearly you don't.

For example, when one of you dimbulbs say, "There is no risk involved in freighter ganking." Of course there is you ninnys. The freighter pilot is taking high risk. When you put 8 billion in your freighter you are at high(er) risk of getting ganked. Especially if you don't use a scout. Yes, those doing the ganking face low(er) risk, but they face that low(er) risk because they have taken steps to avoid high(er) risk.

And how do you balance the risk here when it is players who are taking actions that expose them to various levels of risk. Risk is not something that comes along and happens randomly, it is also based on actions. If you study, for example, the insurance literature you'll see lots of focus on what is known as moral hazard. That is where the insurance company is worried that with an insurance policy the people covered will take less steps to avoid the bad state. That is why they impose a deductible, you don't want to pay the deductible so you'll take steps to avoid the bad state. The lower the deductible the higher the premium because they are exposed to more risk because of the behavior of the insured.

In the end people who complain about ganking are sloppy, ignorant, and out right wrong in their use of the words "risk aversion", "risk vs. reward", etc.

One more thing about scattering NPCs everywhere. It provides a test of the character's skills. If a character is tested by a consistent enemy, the player can sense the benefit of the character's SP and their fitting choices.

The NPCs used for this purpose don't even need to give a bounty payout. Their gameplay benefit is the visceral feel of killing them faster based on your SP.

One of the best overarching experiences in nullsec as a newbie was fighting Angels rats in Curse. At first all I had was a Cormorant, and then a Caracal. I died quite often to the rats but with each skill and better fitting advice from my corp mentors, I was making progress against them. Then I upgraded to a Drake and the rats began to RUN from me. I couldn't break their tank but that turn of the tide was excellent.

You don't find that in high sec unless you take missions, but that can be intimidating and it takes time to talk to agents and go to a mission location. Instead NPCs should spawn at player ships unexpectedly and against their will.

did you know high sec ganking is not a problem outside of high sec?

NPCs cant replace players.

Ganking doesn't have any negative impact on player retention. In fact it has a positive impact, CCP have shown this and we have clearly seen it back when mining interdictions happened. Ganking has never ruined the reputation of EVE, it helped to forge the reputation of EVE as the only MMO with actual piracy.

how is it replacing players when you can fly around for ten minutes and not get shot and adding NPCs would fix that

Because NPC's can never compete with players. They will never be as dangerous or as adaptable as players, just look at burner missions. They were supposed to be more pvp like but in the end they were farmed the moment the arrived on tranquility.

They also don't provide as much content as players.

Those statements are true but right now I'm talking about adding NPCs. You can add NPCs without replacing players.

are you doing this on purpose? this is a very simple idea.

The burden of risk/reward is placed almost entirely on the hauler/miner. The ganker loses out on sec status and a disposable destroyer. What a terrible loss.

And still you stupid ******* whine about ganking being nerfed.

Its a fair enough point.