Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I love how your style of conversation is to retreat into a shell, insult others intelligence and call them trolls when you run out of valid points to make.

When you have something of substance on this thread's topic, feel free to shoot me a message.

I have never AFK camped anyone in my life. I have lived in systems that were camped though. We just ratted in groups in PvP fit ships while in fleet and on comms (if you're in null, you should be in fleet and on comms 100% of the time anyway). The people stupid enough to try to gank us simply died.

Again, get rid of local and we can talk. A PvE-er watching local will literally never die. in sov null.

You are just a one trick silly troll who says the same moronic things again and again.

Because your idea would be a nerf to ATK cloaking ships too. Suppose I want to roam around you systems in a cloaking ship and try to catch ratters and miners who are also watching Netflix, now my game just got nerfed even though I am ATK.

That idea is not new and has been proposed since forever.

Getting rid of local has a couple of major impacts, the first is that there are other free intels that should also go, like the stuff on the map, and Dotlan, this enables people to zero in on active players, so if you remove local and not them you make the balance massively in the favour of people who want to catch people.

The next part of the equations is what happens to all those players in poorly attended TZ's and small alliances, do they have to have multiple accounts to be able to put a scout on each gate and on each WH to be able to control their risk, it just gets too much of a lottery unless you are in a system with a lot of other players. In theory though what would happen is that people would group up more and people would stop going into poor true sec systems to hunt, but that would require the other free data like number of people in system and NPC kills to take a hike too so that you could rat and hide yourself operating. If you get rid of local you need to get rid of all other free intel.

Another key issue is that with the removal of combat recons from D-scan there is a huge hole in terms of getting a warning of approaching danger. I was very good at keeping my attention when ratting on local when ratting, and only a few times did I miss someone arriving in local, but it can happen.

But I also operated in a contested NPC 0.0 system in 2010 and I had to use D-scan a lot, and I have to say it gets really tedious clicking D-scan continuously, if CCP made that automatic in some way then perhaps it would be helpful, because its just a pain otherwise.

EDIT: The belief is that many people would give up on 0.0 do level 4's for a while and then as they are so brain dead boring leave Eve.

Yeah good points! That would be something they would have to figure out. AFK ratting, Mining are both an issue. (Watching Netflix...hahahahaha)

The general consensus is that free intel is bad and should go. So, I'd be fine with Dotlan not telling us how many rats have been killed in the last hour, last day, etc.



Local does not let you scout ahead. So I'm not seeing the issue here. Yes, if you are in bad TZ relative to your alliance, like me, things are not as easy for you--i.e. less people around.



Well depending on how you fit the Observatory Array those concerns could all be addressed.

Lets explain why this statement is so moronic:



1. Then why do it then?
2. How do we know whether the player is AFK or not (Made more difficult with recent changes in the game.)
3. So does it matter if we flag them as AFK then (Suddenly it does...)

So that very comment is wny I suggested an OS to flag people as AFK. Simple really...

So you leave someone in a system because you don't like local? You are weird, totally weird, so you don't like long term game mechanics so you plonk someone in a system.

See you ignored my comment on your moronic statement. I thought you would, not a surprise.

What am I nerfing exactly?