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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#21 - 2016-09-22 23:27:27 UTC
I just want to keep my personal stuff page so it easily fits in the area I have set aside for that kind of thing when I have it up on the screen. If it starts getting out of that range, I hop in my Nereus and do a clean up run. Other than that, I keep stuff in HiSec and Null Sec.

As far as joining a corp goes, just find one that does what you enjoy and gives you the freedom you want to have.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#22 - 2016-09-22 23:35:44 UTC
parhelion rathgar wrote:
Thanks everyone for the perspective, advice is pretty much all over the map here and I'm not too surprised but it does help to know that I haven't missed something obvious and having stuff spread about is pretty normal. I am starting to poke around at corps to see if i can find one that fits so thanks for the additional nudge in that direction.


It's really up to you. Some people really don't like having stuff spread out, so they focus on keeping everything in one or two stations. Other people (like me) don't mind seeing stuff in 50+ stations all over the universe, so at the end of the day it really comes down to what you want
Velarra
#23 - 2016-09-23 15:56:03 UTC
parhelion rathgar wrote:
Thanks everyone for the perspective, advice is pretty much all over the map here and I'm not too surprised but it does help to know that I haven't missed something obvious and having stuff spread about is pretty normal.


It is, but do try to keep some level of organization and method to the madness of having stuff in different places. It's also not uncommon to hear tales of people waking up after a few years to junk stored everywhere. Like a messy closet or lol bedroom ... all in once-upon-a-time "chaotic"-order... but really just a total mess. That really should be sorted and organized. The annoyance of sorting it all, partially centralizing & / selling off junk is quite real. Something you probably want to avoid if at all possible.
Taishoku Mayaki
Feeling Cute Today
#24 - 2016-09-23 16:07:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Taishoku Mayaki
I do a once every two week clean up where I bring all my "Stuff" to central hubs. I shift all my PvP goods into a Citadel in low-sec, all my carebearing goods to one of two high-sec stations. Based in the regions I enjoy carebearing in, one Low-sec one High-sec. Both in NPC stations to reduce risk.

If I lose my PvP ships to a Citadel exploding, whatever. Can buy more. Anything not worth picking up, I trash it.

I try to avoid sticking all my stuff in one place, I also do a Jump-Clone clean up at the same time. As sometimes I can end up with them in funny places if I have to drop my implants ASAP to do some null/low-sec stuff.

But you got to find out what works for you, do you want to do the effort to be tidy? If not, do whatever.

"Right-O, lets get undocked and see what falls off the ship"

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-09-25 05:51:03 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I have multiple bases all over.

I often use shuttles to commute, as one can AFK through hisec in an empty shuttle with low risk. I own several hundred shuttles.

When I want to get places fast, I'll use an interceptor or covert ops.

When I want fast and plenty of cargo, I'll use a blockade runner [must stay cloaked at all times though].

Usually Tau gives great advice.

However using a shuttle to AFK through High Security space is not good advice. In fact, never use Autopilot travel through High Security space and definitely don't AFK at anytime. It's pretty much guaranteed you will be attacked.

Using an Interceptor or Cov Ops Frigate for quick travel is ok, as long as you don't AFK travel on autopilot. Using a Blockade Runner (with Cloak) to transport assets is the best option to do. Again, never AFK travel on Autopilot.

As for assets building up in stations, just do a general clean up once a month. I suggest having a few 'Main' Bases Of Operation set up in various areas and use those to stage with. As your assets grow in other stations, reprocess the low level loot into minerals and use a good defensive tanked Transport ship to move the high level loot and minerals to your nearest Base Of Operation. There you can go through the high level loot and either sell, reprocess or keep the items, depending on it's value.

Since the level 1 SoE Epic Arc takes you through all of Empire space (High Security) and if you plan on doing Exploration as well as redoing the Epic Arcs every 90 days or so, probably be a good idea to set up 4 to 6 Base Of Operations in each Factions controlled space (Amarr, Ammatar, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar).

I had let my assets pile up over the years into massive amounts of loot spread all over New Eden. Over 300 stations located in 21 different Regions which took me over a month to liquidate and consolidate most everything. That was a job I did not enjoy doing.


DMC
radkid10
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-09-25 08:00:38 UTC
parhelion rathgar wrote:
i'm new, just working through the SOE epic arc and trying to learn different aspects of the game. I'm not doing PvP just yet until i feel like I am making enough Isk to support that kind of activity. One thing that I am struggling with is just the vast scope of this game, its wonderful and overwhelming at the same time.

How do different players approach the logistics of this game? For instance, I have stuff pretty literally scattered hell to breakfast (ok, maybe not literally) all across the universe that I've explored. How do you approach getting it all, or most, into one place or at least accessible. Is it a Borg like operation - moving system by system consuming what each has to offer before moving on? Or do you pick a more or less center of operations and work out from that, always returning to that base with your load of stuff? Or do you just live with the idea that "****, that thing i could really use right now is 20+ jumps away" ? It just feels like the logistics of getting, keeping, and maintaining the stuff you need (or might) is really challenging.

Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't tl;dr!


I don't give a crap about the stuff I haven't stations I just leave it behind eventually I might go back and clean it up maybe next spring

if the item is less than 10 million leave it behind and buy it where your at
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#27 - 2016-09-25 09:02:17 UTC
All good advices. In addition, try to get some third party tool (mobile or desktop baed, there are many) so you can check the value of your assets from time to time. If you live chaotically scattered everywhere, one accidental benefit is that at some point in yout EVE career you realise that you actually have a lot of assets and can have big chunk of ISK while you've been thinking you are space poor all along :D it's very troublesome to liquidate but if you can consolidate and liquidate suddenly you get nice cash injection you didn't really plan for or counted on ;)

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#28 - 2016-09-28 17:50:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I have multiple bases all over.

I often use shuttles to commute, as one can AFK through hisec in an empty shuttle with low risk. I own several hundred shuttles.

When I want to get places fast, I'll use an interceptor or covert ops.

When I want fast and plenty of cargo, I'll use a blockade runner [must stay cloaked at all times though].

Usually Tau gives great advice.

However using a shuttle to AFK through High Security space is not good advice. In fact, never use Autopilot travel through High Security space and definitely don't AFK at anytime. It's pretty much guaranteed you will be attacked.

Using an Interceptor or Cov Ops Frigate for quick travel is ok, as long as you don't AFK travel on autopilot. Using a Blockade Runner (with Cloak) to transport assets is the best option to do. Again, never AFK travel on Autopilot.

If you take my advice, I'll happily reimburse you for any lost empty shuttle if you ever lose one when AFK in hisec. Attention

"When I want to get places fast, I'll use an interceptor or covert ops", note that "fast" means not AFK. Roll

"When I want fast and plenty of cargo, I'll use a blockade runner [must stay cloaked at all times though]", note that "fast" and "cloaked at all times" means not AFK. Roll

Note that I only stated AFK for an empty shuttle in hisec Attention
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#29 - 2016-09-29 02:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
More or less I agree with Tau. Except in a Leopard. People will shoot your afk leopard. Normal racial shuttles with empty cargo, with no war decks, the chances of someone shooting a newbie shuttle in HS is very slim.

Leopards are the best ship from going from end of HS to the other fast, bar none. Unless another special edition ship came out to fill the same role.

Now DeMichael on the other hand. If he were to fly afk in a shuttle, of COURSE he would get shot down. I'd do it if I were flying something cheap for the lols. Once people know your name, going AFK, ever, becomes verboten. If people don't know who the f- you are, then you're relatively safe. Which is why it's perfectly ok advice, to a total newbie in an npc corp.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2016-09-29 18:27:59 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Contrary to what the two posters above me have said, if you AFK in a shuttle, even if it's empty, you will be attacked, regardless if your character's name is known or not.

Someone I know who started playing 9 yrs ago but had been away from the game for a few years recently decided to come back and try out the new Eve. He's not a known player, doesn't post in the forums and was in NPC corp.

Anyway, he decided to go to Jita in an empty shuttle and buy a Deadspace module for a refit on his Battleship to do some mission running. On his way to Jita, he set Autopilot and went AFK for a about 10 minutes. He came back to find his shuttle destroyed and himself in a Medical clone which was now even further away from Jita.

He couldn't believe he had been suicide ganked in an empty shuttle on Autopilot to Jita. Needless to say he was pissed and basically said, 'Fuc this game', logged out and hasn't returned.

But hey, do what you wanna do, that story could just be something I made up. However you can be rest assured, it is a true story.



DMC
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#31 - 2016-09-29 20:55:41 UTC
Plenty of shuttle losses in HiSec, hard to narrow down to AFK stuff though.

Take Tau up on his offer if you fly AFK and get vaporized. He's essentially correct, an empty shuttle is not a target for most gankers, but he's incorrect that it's not a target at all, in that sense DMC is right as well.

A FREE loot fit rookie ship can take down a shuttle pretty rapidly. It essentially would only cost the aggressor security status.

You'd probably be victim of boredom as much as anything else, but yes, your shuttle can go down in HiSec if you just autopilot it. You never know what blows peoples skirts... case in point:

You're almost better off capsuling it if you have no implants because the capsule is free and has nothing to loot, not even the wreck... unless you run into some kind of corpse collector weirdo, and I say that in the nicest way because I've flown with a few. It's fun to watch them panic jettison their cargo hold when they jump into a system with Seekers on the gate!
13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2016-10-03 05:37:15 UTC
Its all about that isk/effort ratio.

If you're 1 day old, it might be worth it to make a traveling salesman out of yourself and autopilot with a cargohold frigate in order to pick up errant trash for sale at hubs. if you're a month old, just sell it off immediately to any of the vvarious 0.01 isk orders in the region. Let them handle being a traveling salesman.

If you don't want people profiting like a king off your hard work, but it isn't valuable enough to go get it, trash it. It isn't yours alone but the 1000s of other players being this 'generous' that gets these bottom feeders known as 0.01 region iskers their large money. The space hobos have access to 1000 trashcrans/stations for free and profit off you.

Don't let that happen if you think they don't deserve it.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices

Memphis Baas
#33 - 2016-10-03 11:31:16 UTC
I have multiple bases of operation, all with ships and junk, and I use either shuttles or jumpclones to move just my character around. Having ships ready at each base of operation means I don't need to move ships with me.

Otherwise, ALL my alts can fly an industrial hauler of some sort, to carry all the junk around if needed. And I'm not adverse to creating courier contracts to have junk moved for me; paying the typical 500k per jump isn't a big deal.

I also spend a bit of time at the end of each play session to "clean up" - dump all the valuable loot into a station container marked for the purpose, and reprocess all the worthless junk into minerals. I typically accumulate stuff over the week and sell what's in that loot can on the weekend (or at the end of the month).
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