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parhelion rathgar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-09-21 23:42:55 UTC
i'm new, just working through the SOE epic arc and trying to learn different aspects of the game. I'm not doing PvP just yet until i feel like I am making enough Isk to support that kind of activity. One thing that I am struggling with is just the vast scope of this game, its wonderful and overwhelming at the same time.

How do different players approach the logistics of this game? For instance, I have stuff pretty literally scattered hell to breakfast (ok, maybe not literally) all across the universe that I've explored. How do you approach getting it all, or most, into one place or at least accessible. Is it a Borg like operation - moving system by system consuming what each has to offer before moving on? Or do you pick a more or less center of operations and work out from that, always returning to that base with your load of stuff? Or do you just live with the idea that "****, that thing i could really use right now is 20+ jumps away" ? It just feels like the logistics of getting, keeping, and maintaining the stuff you need (or might) is really challenging.

Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't tl;dr!
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#2 - 2016-09-21 23:55:42 UTC
Depends on the value of the stuff, what it is worth on the market, and do I use it often, if no to all those questions I just get an industrial ship and go to the station reprocess for minerals, then move on to the next pile until I've gotten it organized, if it's not worth much value I contract it for cheap or trash it.

Now if you just want to do this quickly jump into a shuttle go to the station and just sell everything to market, if it is something that isn't worth selling reprocessing for minerals then sell that, minerals are always in demand.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2016-09-22 00:05:14 UTC
i base out of one station, everything i need barring clones is there.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2016-09-22 00:33:31 UTC
Everyone plays the game different.

I have stuff scattered all over. I mean lots and lots of stuff in many many stations spread far and wide. If I need something I buy it or make it. I don't go through my inventory except when I'm really bored and looking for something different to do. Then I'll run around and pick some of my stuff up and consolidate it.

I've known other people that almost won't undock from a station unless everything has been sold. The liquidate everything immediately and have almost no stock anywhere.

I'm guessing most players are somewhere between those extremes and have a stockpile of things that they use from time to time in places that they visit regularly or maybe even occasionally. The rest they buy as need be and liquidation also occurs on an as needed basis.

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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#5 - 2016-09-22 00:42:38 UTC
I have OCD and I am constantly making public courier contracts to bring everything to the nearest hub. I will liquidate stuff I don't need and I usually only keep a small stash of ships on hand. (I move frequently.)

ergherhdfgh is right- everyone plays this game their own way. Smile

@lunettelulu7

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#6 - 2016-09-22 01:49:23 UTC
My personal assets folder is pages long when collapsed. Part of this is region buy orders in multiple regions. Part of this is a nomadic lifestyle, and part of this is staging for future operations.

I stopped picking up and moving my operations when I moved out of VFK because I had to go sailing before an imminent war. So I've stuff in providence, stuff in Deklein, stuff in Stain, stuff in Solitude, stuff in Aridia, etc, etc.

Really, I only recommend picking up if you need the isk. Otherwise, leaving it there for later is fine. Use contracts to minimize the tedium of consolidating and put the risk on others. So long as you have sufficient isk in your wallet for current operations, what you have 20-60 jumps away doesn't matter. And if I go into a wormhole and come out near a stash, I'm gold.

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#7 - 2016-09-22 01:55:34 UTC
welcome to EVE. I've spent time all over the universe and have stuff in dozens upon dozens of stations. I have billions of assets in stations where I can't dock any more.

I have jumpclones scattered around and periodically either jump over or take an interceptor to update sell orders to slowly sell everything.

That being said, nothing wrong with having ships in different stations. Keeping pockets of ships in stations in different areas of HS/LS/NS/etc is pretty helpful in the long run.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-09-22 02:40:13 UTC
OP, if you want to pvp, you can do that now, you don't have to wait.

Read the "finding a corp that is right for you" sticky at the top of this page for starters.

There are many groups in EvE that will take you in and show / provide what you need to get / stay going.

Volunteer to be a kamikaze tackle pilot at first.

There are a lot of people around here that know more about that than I, though...


Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-09-22 03:43:35 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
OP, if you want to pvp, you can do that now, you don't have to wait.

Very true. You'll also learn more efficient ways of making isk to support it from experienced players. Don't wait to get involved with a corp, and don't avoid PVP because you are poor. If you have nothing, then you have nothing to lose!

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Titan's Lament

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#10 - 2016-09-22 04:36:33 UTC
Another option for selling everything at a station is to bulk sell the entire thing in a single contract. This can save on contract slots, and if you give a good enough discount and the station is relatively easy to access, have a high likelyhood of being taken.

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Wombat65Au Egdald
R I S E
#11 - 2016-09-22 05:29:37 UTC
I don't keep all my eggs in one basket, meaning I don't keep all my stuff in one place. My stuff is spread between multiple stations, but I try to limit how many stations I keep stuff in.

I do let things pile up for a while at various stations, then I jump into a cargo ship and move the items that have piled up into one of my main hubs. Once I've got that done I'll take a closer look at what items I've accumulated, reprocess anything that won't sell above a certain price, sell the stuff that will sell but I don't have any use for, and keep the stuff that I do have a use for.

On top of that, once every few months I'll look at the stuff I've been holding onto and decide I don't need 20 spares of item X so I'll keep a few of them and sell the rest.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-09-22 06:48:46 UTC
If you join a good corporation where you have fun, learn things and feel at home, your logistic problems will disappear : you will know why you are where you are, and you will have a "base" (or a few ones).
On top of that, many corpos have their own hauling services.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2016-09-22 07:20:36 UTC
I have multiple bases all over.

I often use shuttles to commute, as one can AFK through hisec in an empty shuttle with low risk. I own several hundred shuttles.

When I want to get places fast, I'll use an interceptor or covert ops.

When I want fast and plenty of cargo, I'll use a blockade runner [must stay cloaked at all times though].
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#14 - 2016-09-22 08:02:40 UTC
While I would always encourage people to explore all sorts of space, there is also benefit of knowing one area REALLY well.

Knowing the locals, knowing what people are doing in that system/adjacent systems, knowing the power blocs of the area, knowing who likes flying what, knowing some regular haulers' travel patterns/TZ, who is whose alt, your opponent's usual tactical bookmark spot, preferred ship types and fits, who will come dropping BLOPS/Caps when you poke that structure which looks like its owned by a carebear one man corp (then you find out that it's not what you thought... but the firework was nice).

you also get a 'feel' for travel time between different spots in the system/gates, you will have optimised D-Scan positions where you can cover the whole system with minimum cycle of warp/D-scan.

Depending on systems, in a system with multiple gates you can even tell as soon as someone pops up in local which gate he just took to enter your system based on the D-Scan range and your position from each gates, etc, and you will know the usual flight route people take, and you can get to his destination gate before he arrives there, and even jump to the other side and wait for him to show up, etc.

I have rather limited range of operation, but I know them very well after years of living there. I have average to bad PVP skills (not SP, but piloting skills), and tendency to gamble and risk just because I need to shoot something and see something explode (even if it's me exploding) before I log off for the night. So I'm by no means a pvp vet, but I've out-lived most entities in my area while many have moved on.

Where I live, many entities came and left. Many of them arriving in big numbers and force and wrecking havoc and perma camping gates for a while, then they either move on to find something new or get spanked so hard by local pros (not me lol) that they disappear eventually.

And I've seen some super pros who lives and hunts around mainly one system and he's got thousands of solo kills. I'm sure he's a very good pilot, but I would wager that his experience and knowledge and understanding of the area and local helps him immensely, as well as having all the 'right tools' readily available for huge varieties of targets.

I won't give specifics of my current situation, as I hardly fly space ships these days, but let's just say my clueless adventures into low sec started at some point in the last decade in a certain system called.... Egghelende XD

Suffice to say I learned the PVP mechanics the hard way but it was extremely educational that served me well in long run.

Anyways - I go off track here, go explore, but when you find a place you like, do consider settling down for longer period of time to really become a local there. It's a very interesting experience too.

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-09-22 10:24:57 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
And if I go into a wormhole and come out near a stash, I'm gold.

I once came out of a wormhole minus my ship and I needed a BC and was nowhere near a trade hub. It turns out I was only 3 jumps from a Cyclone that was probably my very first BC ever. The fit was terrible and it had no rigs as the ship was so old that I had it back when rigs were so expensive that they cost more than your ship.

It was really cool to come across that old ship and see that old fit. I'm sure this story isn't all that useful but the following quote from Iria is spot on:

Iria Ahrens wrote:


Really, I only recommend picking up if you need the isk. Otherwise, leaving it there for later is fine.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-09-22 11:07:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Well, I'm not good in logistics Blink I have a few bases in low and one in Thera where ships are stored, and my home including the medical clone is currently in Perimeter. When a ship is lost, I just buy a new one in the closest hub. Sometimes I have a spare extra in the respective PvP staging if I expect to lose one during a session and reshipping in a hub is to much of a hassle. Before the next fleet I haul 1-2 replacement ships over from Jita if none is left. Solo trips are always starting out of Perimeter/Jita.

Now the messy part, all the loot is usually dropped in the next suitable station, because I can and want to be able to lose my ship any time when I'm in lower sec space. The stuff stays there ... and every couple of months I scan through my assets for deadspace, blueprints and other valuable stuff of low volume and do a big collection run with an interceptor. That means T2, mostn drones and bigger stuff is piling up across stations in known space in New Eden ... and I have not decided what to do with it.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-09-22 11:25:47 UTC
Get used to having no magical universal bank that you can access from anywhere :D
Velarra
#18 - 2016-09-22 16:26:14 UTC
A mixture of centralization and flexibility is probably something to aim for when sorting out personal logistics.

Determine a Region, you are comfortable in. find one or two systems with npc stations you are comfortable with and keep the majority of your stuff there.

With an eye to being flexible try to keep secondary assets organized and based in further out locations you -may- go to visit occasionally. Places that are set up for vacations and out of the way enough that they're a bit far from your normal territory. Setting these vacation spots up with everything you need for a few weeks is a good idea. From ammo through to pre-fit ships. You might also want to set these bases up in various types of secured space, - High / Low / NPC 0.0. Set up jump clones there too so you can just hop from region to region rather than travel to it when the desire to take a break from your normal haunts comes about.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#19 - 2016-09-22 19:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
If I remember correctly, the SOE missions arc makes you travel all over high sec. So you naturally end up with junk strung around everywhere. My guess is most people end up basing in one system and consolidating their stuff there. For most, the system you end up is determined by the corp you join. You end up moving your stuff to the corp's home base.

When I started out, I ended up hauling a bunch of mission loot items from one end of the map to another, when I changed corps. It took forever, doing several round trips. If I were to do it again, I'd just sell the stuff were it sat, rather than moving it. If some item's local Buy price were really low (99% below market average), I'd just reprocess it and sell the minerals. The time spent flying around collecting stuff could be better spent doing missions, anoms, other isk-making and funner stuff.
parhelion rathgar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2016-09-22 23:10:31 UTC
Thanks everyone for the perspective, advice is pretty much all over the map here and I'm not too surprised but it does help to know that I haven't missed something obvious and having stuff spread about is pretty normal. I am starting to poke around at corps to see if i can find one that fits so thanks for the additional nudge in that direction.
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