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6700K vs 6800K for 2-3 accs multiboxing
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ZRXIII
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-09-21 17:44:43 UTC
Hey guys im building new pc and debating with myself about wich proccessor would be better.
I usually run 3 accs on 3 monitors, will 2 extra cores in 6800k help me run all 3 clients smoother and with more fps than 6700k?Attention
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#2 - 2016-09-21 17:53:31 UTC
I know for a fact you can run 10 eve accounts on a Commodore 64, so, well, yea Big smile
Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2016-09-21 18:04:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
I can't imagine there would be any noticeable difference.

6700k seems to use considerably less power so if you care about that kind of thing (I know the Aussies do) I would just go with that as long term the other will cost you considerably more than just the difference in the initial purchase.

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Nex Killer
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-09-21 18:46:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Nex Killer
My i7-4770k ran just fine when I use to multibox 30-35 accounts at once. Even on a 3770k you can run 15+ easy, another big factor is your GPU too. don't forget about that, I use to have 2x 7870s and they ran the game great when multiboxing.
ZRXIII
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-09-21 19:28:50 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
I can't imagine there would be any noticeable difference.

6700k seems to use considerably less power so if you care about that kind of thing (I know the Aussies do) I would just go with that as long term the other will cost you considerably more than just the difference in the initial purchase.

Im am sure either gonna handle multiboxing great, i was just curious if 2 extra cores makes it better. And no problem with power consumption, electricity is cheap in Canada :)
ZRXIII
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-09-21 19:34:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ZRXIII
Nex Killer wrote:
My i7-4770k ran just fine when I use to multibox 30-35 accounts at once. Even on a 3770k you can run 15+ easy, another big factor is your GPU too. don't forget about that, I use to have 2x 7870s and they ran the game great when multiboxing.


Im buying GTX 1080 for my build
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-09-21 20:07:19 UTC
I wouldn't expect the 6800 to have much impact at 3 clients over a 6700, not sure what would be going on that would require more than 8 threads. Also in addition to the price difference in the processors themselves 1151 socket motherboards seem to be cheaper than 2011-v3 boards as well.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-09-21 20:27:07 UTC
Don't expect ANY noticeable difference whatsoever between the two. I have an i5 6700k and a GTX 1070, I run 11 accounts, all on high settings with full visual effects, all windows maximized, and have yet to notice any stuttering or performance problems unrelated to network connectivity or server lag.

If your performance goal is to triple box eve, you're wasting a lot of money. You're basically buying the equivalent of a restaurant pizza oven to cook the occasional store-bought frozen pizza. Even a first generation i3, i5, or i7 would exceed the needs of an eve tripleboxer.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2016-09-22 02:18:09 UTC
Id have to find the CCP dev post as it was posted a while ago but because Eve is single threaded it runs each client best on a single GHz heavy core. So if you want only 3 clients then technically youd only need a triple core CPU that is the highest GHz you can get. Then slave a single core to each client instance in your Task manager and voila you are golden.

Arronicus has it right you are WAY overkilling it for Eve for only three clients.

PS- I waited like 3 or 4 years for CCP to finally answer that single/multi core question for me. Big smile

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Toobo
Project Fruit House
#10 - 2016-09-22 05:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Toobo
For EVE, especially in the scale you mention, those differences are negligible at best and possibly even unnoticeable.

Where extra cores REALLY help is when you do stuff like video rendering. The difference is massive depending on the number of cores allocated to it. And If you have enough cores and great (and separated) SSDs and RAM and graphics cards, you can define how many cores the video rendering can use and leave some free for EVE, which means you can play EVE reasonably while rendering. The longest video rendering I ever done took little over two full days to render, so think 50 hours or so of pure rendering while PC is doing nothing but rendering. That was with i7 quad core (forgot the actual model, but it was one of the top class CPUs at the time), 16GB of RAM and working GPU acceleration support, with clips for the render distributed to five different physical drives to reduce the drive bottleneck.

For multiboxing EVE, especially for below 10 clients, you really need only modest gear.

NOTE: For anybody wondering what the heck I was rendering, it was 60 minutes of video composed of 48 full HD video clips all resized in proportion to fill 1080 resolution, some videos were in different resolutions/had black bars etc so needed zooming/cropping. :p

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ZRXIII
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-09-22 15:29:38 UTC
My pc is not only for EVE, but for much more demanding games and general using.
Thanks for your time and replies guys, mostlikely im getting 6700k.
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2016-09-22 17:15:23 UTC
Eve is basically single threaded so if you only have 3 accounts you need max hz per core on a 4 core cpu...
6+ core only makes sense if running more clients. I have 6 main accounts so i got a 6 core i7 so each would have its own core but if i am only running 1-4 clients (which is most of the time) a better 4 core cpu would be better for me most of the time.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#13 - 2016-09-22 18:13:47 UTC
That's one of the few times buying AMD 8-core FX might actually be better. It would run one client at reasonable-to-good performance, and not care at all if you started several more.

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Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2016-09-22 19:15:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tappits
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
That's one of the few times buying AMD 8-core FX might actually be better. It would run one client at reasonable-to-good performance, and not care at all if you started several more.


I have one of the FX-8 Black edition's with the 8 cores at work... and clock for clock core for core there subpar even vs old crap like an i5 2500k
Bishop Bob
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-09-22 19:43:17 UTC
Toobo wrote:
For EVE, especially in the scale you mention, those differences are negligible at best and possibly even unnoticeable.

Where extra cores REALLY help is when you do stuff like video rendering. The difference is massive depending on the number of cores allocated to it. And If you have enough cores and great (and separated) SSDs and RAM and graphics cards, you can define how many cores the video rendering can use and leave some free for EVE, which means you can play EVE reasonably while rendering. The longest video rendering I ever done took little over two full days to render, so think 50 hours or so of pure rendering while PC is doing nothing but rendering. That was with i7 quad core (forgot the actual model, but it was one of the top class CPUs at the time), 16GB of RAM and working GPU acceleration support, with clips for the render distributed to five different physical drives to reduce the drive bottleneck.

For multiboxing EVE, especially for below 10 clients, you really need only modest gear.

NOTE: For anybody wondering what the heck I was rendering, it was 60 minutes of video composed of 48 full HD video clips all resized in proportion to fill 1080 resolution, some videos were in different resolutions/had black bars etc so needed zooming/cropping. :p



THIS. Too many wannabe IT geeks that don't know how their PC actually works...
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#16 - 2016-09-22 21:40:12 UTC
Bishop, I see it as kind of 'gear obsession' you see in so many other areas. You see it everywhere from gamers to home music/video hobbyists and noob DJs and amateur photographers and the list is endless.... it's incredible how much people spend for top/new gears while what they do with them is at very basic level.

I'm guilty of such things too in some areas and I too have a lot of gear lust, but family responsibilities limits me from going crazy heh

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!