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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#101 - 2016-09-21 13:36:05 UTC
If you'e trying to kill a bunch of people, it's a mass killing.

If you'e trying to kill them and all their culture's memes, it's genocide.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
Arrendis
TK Corp
#102 - 2016-09-21 13:41:41 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
So since I kill people with what I consider equanimity and little prejudice as regards their race, colour, creed, gender or religion to say I have some kind of genocidal agenda is hyperbole.


Ah, but they're all human! If you want to avoid your homicide being genocide, you need to kill some cows, too.

And make steaks. Or burgers. Or kebab. Or tsuivan. Or... wow, there's just a long list of ways cow-murder gets tasty, isn't there?
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#103 - 2016-09-21 14:19:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Arrendis wrote:
Or... wow, there's just a long list of ways cow-murder gets tasty, isn't there?


Of course. Barbecued medium rare with a rich gravy is my preferred method.

@veikusenpai

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2016-09-21 14:38:21 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Jason Galente wrote:


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Intent only determines severity of sentence, not determination of guilt.


Sure, ignorance of the law is no excuse for committing a crime within a particular jurisdiction. However I was referring to genocide as a crime that requires both an intention to commit genocide and carrying out that intention, in determining guilt. Hence my example, mass-killing does not become genocide until it's ethnically motivated and has that intent behind it.

Otherwise it's just mass-killing.

So since I kill people with what I consider equanimity and little prejudice as regards their race, colour, creed, gender or religion to say I have some kind of genocidal agenda is hyperbole.

@fakeveik


It's usually, but not always ethnic. There have been genocides committed over cultural differences and religious differences, for example.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#105 - 2016-09-22 18:14:46 UTC
Neph wrote:


If you'e trying to kill them and all their culture's memes, it's genocide.



Fortunately, as history has shown, not even Nyx fuel can melt Caldari memes.

@veikusenpai

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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#106 - 2016-09-24 10:48:06 UTC
So. Up to six pages now and the only Imperial offering has been a children's teaching song. So I did a bit of digging. I'm guessing some of you will remember this from basic training, or possibly from parades.

Soldier, Ask Not.

Soldier, ask not - now, or ever,
Where to war your banners go.
Anarch's legions all surround us.
Strike - and do not count the blow!

Glory, honor, praise and profit,
Are but toys of tinsel worth.
Render up your work, unasking,
Leave the human clay to earth.

Blood and sorrow, pain unending,
Are the portion of us all.
Grasp the naked sword, opposing,
Gladly in the battle fall.

So shall we, anointed soldiers,
Stand at last before the Throne,
Baptized in our wounds, red-flowing,
Sealed unto our Lord - alone!

((Hymn of the Friendlies by Gordon R. Dickson, within book of the same title (1923–2001), published 1965. I've hear it sung well to the music of the old puritan hymn "Babylon 'tis fallen."))

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#107 - 2016-09-24 21:27:07 UTC
He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He fights with missiles and with spears.
He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,
He's been a soldier for a thousand years.

He's a Caldari, a Gallente, an Amarr, a Matar,
An Achur and a Khanid and a Mannar.
And he knows he shouldn't kill,
And he knows he always will,
Kill you for me my friend and me for you.

And he's fighting for the State,
He's fighting for Fed,
He's fighting for the Empire,
And he's fighting for the Tribes,
And he's fighting for himself,
And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.

And he's fighting for those he loves,
He's fighting for the those he hates,
He says it's for the peace of all.
He's the one who must decide,
Who's to live and who's to die,
And he never sees the writing on the wall.

He's the one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war,
And without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,
His orders come from far away no more,
They come from here and there and you and me,
And brothers can't you see,
This is not the way we put an end to war.

Probably my favourite martial song as a capsuleer.

@veikusenpai

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